If you are running cvs then all you need do is do a checkout in the speakup directory occasionally. It will update and repatch any new changes and then just recompile. We haven't made any really changes in the last few weeks. We've been busy updating speak freely and I have end of year stuff to do in my real job. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061