I know this was discussed recently on this loist, but I lost the solution. I'm trying to install cdrdao but need both the libgdkmm and the libgtkmm libraries. rpmfind doesn't seem to list these. Where do I go? Is this something I get from my distro? Seems that it's more general than that. Thanks in advance as always. -- Janina Sajka, Director Information Systems Research & Development American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) janina at afb.net