Oh, probably won't have to worry about using one, none around where I know of in most situations. At 12:56 PM 10/26/00 +1100, you wrote: >Brent an hp9000 is *not* a pc and does not yet run Linux. >It runms hp/ux and it is a mini computer. >They set you back at least 10k so forget that one >On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 08:03:08PM -0500, Brent Harding wrote: >> In what way would one install linux on a box like this, serial console is >> probably quite usefull, (if I could use it with a parallel to serial >> converter with a dectalk express connected to my laptop's real serial >> port). Would one just put in the hp supplied CD and do the install by >> serial or dialin? >> At 06:07 PM 10/25/00 +1100, you wrote: >> >My hp9000 model 816 has _no_ monitor it has a serial port. It also has the >> >ability for a remote dialin port where you can connect a modem. No >> keyboard or >> >screen there; I have an hp terminal that comes with it to control it or a pc. >> >Now to find a copy of hp/ux for a model 816 :-) Once linux boots we'll try >> >speakup on the hpux :-) >> >On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 09:00:47PM -0500, Brent Harding wrote: >> >> Oh, why then, do they claim to use A/b switches to decide which machine >> >> they're controlling? I'm not fond of that idea either, but if I have to >> >> deal with it, because their firewall secures access to that level, which >> >> I'm not sure it would, it'd be inefficient to do things that way. If >> >> there's no capability of connecting screens or keyboards, what would be >> >> used to set it up initially, or reinstall if something goes wrong? Do these >> >> machines usually have a program that you run across the network that works >> >> no matter what? >> >> I suppose if I can do most stuff remotely, I could just set up one speakup >> >> enabled linux box to control all others with. >> >> At 07:53 AM 10/23/00 -0500, you wrote: >> >> >I think Geoff has pointed out the way you will access any machines you >> >> >need to. It is quite rare for console access to a server that is cranking >> >> >away. In fact my business relies on two AIX (Unix varient) machines. There >> >> >are only two operations done at console. >> >> > >> >> >The first is tape backup. But really it is more a matter of checking that >> >> >files really did backup and putting in the next day's tapes. The other is >> >> >that if building power goes out, someone goes to the server room to ensure >> >> >all shuts down orderly. Otherwise things are done remotely. In fact, there >> >> >are some who consider doing anything locally on a server that could be >> >> >done safely remotely to be a security transgression. Also, there are many >> >> >servers out there with no keyboard or monitor connected. (And a few with >> >> >no video to connect a monitor.) The only operation done at the console is >> >> >hitting the power switch. >> >> > >> >> >If one is trying to prepare for a job they hope for, I would recomend >> >> >learning all one can about administering a box. I would spend almost no >> >> >time wondering about console access. It is just not really needed in the >> >> >business world. Console access is something to worry about when you are >> >> >competing for the boss' job. Not on the first level admin job. >> >> > >> >> >======= >> >> >Kirk Wood >> >> >Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >_______________________________________________ >> >> >Speakup mailing list >> >> >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Speakup mailing list >> >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >> >-- >> >-- >> >Kerry Hoath: kerry at gotss.eu.org >> >Alternates: kerry at emusys.com.au kerry at gotss.spice.net.au or khoath at lis.net.au >> >ICQ UIN: 62823451 >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Speakup mailing list >> >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >-- >-- >Kerry Hoath: kerry at gotss.eu.org >Alternates: kerry at emusys.com.au kerry at gotss.spice.net.au or khoath at lis.net.au >ICQ UIN: 62823451 > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >