Brent an hp9000 is *not* a pc and does not yet run Linux. It runms hp/ux and it is a mini computer. They set you back at least 10k so forget that one On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 08:03:08PM -0500, Brent Harding wrote: > In what way would one install linux on a box like this, serial console is > probably quite usefull, (if I could use it with a parallel to serial > converter with a dectalk express connected to my laptop's real serial > port). Would one just put in the hp supplied CD and do the install by > serial or dialin? > At 06:07 PM 10/25/00 +1100, you wrote: > >My hp9000 model 816 has _no_ monitor it has a serial port. It also has the > >ability for a remote dialin port where you can connect a modem. No > keyboard or > >screen there; I have an hp terminal that comes with it to control it or a pc. > >Now to find a copy of hp/ux for a model 816 :-) Once linux boots we'll try > >speakup on the hpux :-) > >On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 09:00:47PM -0500, Brent Harding wrote: > >> Oh, why then, do they claim to use A/b switches to decide which machine > >> they're controlling? I'm not fond of that idea either, but if I have to > >> deal with it, because their firewall secures access to that level, which > >> I'm not sure it would, it'd be inefficient to do things that way. If > >> there's no capability of connecting screens or keyboards, what would be > >> used to set it up initially, or reinstall if something goes wrong? Do these > >> machines usually have a program that you run across the network that works > >> no matter what? > >> I suppose if I can do most stuff remotely, I could just set up one speakup > >> enabled linux box to control all others with. > >> At 07:53 AM 10/23/00 -0500, you wrote: > >> >I think Geoff has pointed out the way you will access any machines you > >> >need to. It is quite rare for console access to a server that is cranking > >> >away. In fact my business relies on two AIX (Unix varient) machines. There > >> >are only two operations done at console. > >> > > >> >The first is tape backup. But really it is more a matter of checking that > >> >files really did backup and putting in the next day's tapes. The other is > >> >that if building power goes out, someone goes to the server room to ensure > >> >all shuts down orderly. Otherwise things are done remotely. In fact, there > >> >are some who consider doing anything locally on a server that could be > >> >done safely remotely to be a security transgression. Also, there are many > >> >servers out there with no keyboard or monitor connected. (And a few with > >> >no video to connect a monitor.) The only operation done at the console is > >> >hitting the power switch. > >> > > >> >If one is trying to prepare for a job they hope for, I would recomend > >> >learning all one can about administering a box. I would spend almost no > >> >time wondering about console access. It is just not really needed in the > >> >business world. Console access is something to worry about when you are > >> >competing for the boss' job. Not on the first level admin job. > >> > > >> >======= > >> >Kirk Wood > >> >Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >Speakup mailing list > >> >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >-- > >-- > >Kerry Hoath: kerry at gotss.eu.org > >Alternates: kerry at emusys.com.au kerry at gotss.spice.net.au or khoath at lis.net.au > >ICQ UIN: 62823451 > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- -- Kerry Hoath: kerry at gotss.eu.org Alternates: kerry at emusys.com.au kerry at gotss.spice.net.au or khoath at lis.net.au ICQ UIN: 62823451
