Actually, many times you do end up paying for a M$ liscence anyway, but at least your making a statement about it. You see M$ offers (or used to offer) a lower cost per lisense if one was purchased for every machine produced. This was supposed to be on account of easier auditing. But the US government called it monopoly manipulation. I don't know if M$ continues the practice or if Dell is bound by such a deal. Again, part of the M$ stratagy of hiding what companies pay for a lisense so they can shaft some. -- Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net ------------------ Seek simplicity -- and distrust it. Alfred North Whitehead