I would guess that they are looking at the offset to correct the "average" person's PC time back to GMT. While not discounting the usefullness of semantics (like which key is the backslash), I would say that it does come into that. The standard is to specify the difference FROM GMT. But one could as easily think of it as the difference TO GMT. Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net ------------------ Your fly might be open (but don't check it just now).