Wow, my isp bounces mail if I'm off for four hours, so did my previous one. I don't know what'll happen if or when I get dsl or something. Don't know when it'll come to our area, but a guy told me that I could run anything I want with it, this new site bungi.com sounds promising for uucp, I've never used that, and don't know how to configure it, but it sounds like it'll do what I need, and it's free, I hear. I can't find the signup form on their site though, and they say they'll feed it over the internet, how cool!! At 07:09 PM 6/25/00 -0400, you wrote: >No, they do not bounce. Mail simply queus until our server is back online. >Our current isp is concentric. Previously we were using Digex with the >same behavior. > >PS: When we first set up our mail service back around 1997 we actually >tested this by intentionally killing the sendmail processes for a weekend. > >On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, brent harding wrote: > >> Do they bounce mail right away, those warnings that listservers >> auto-unsubscribe you because of? >> My provider seems to be down enough to be kicked off of lists some times, >> thanks to their majordomo bounce script. If there was intelligence in that >> thing to not unsubscribe you because of a warning. >> At 06:53 PM 6/25/00 -0400, you wrote: >> >It slows the boot process considerably on my system. >> > >> >Also, I was not suggesting keeping a queu of outgoing mail for 4 or 5 >> >days. I was saying that our isp holds our incoming mail that long, giving >> >us a chance to fix whatever it is that is keeping us off-line. This is >> >sufficient to hold mail should the server go down at the beginning of a >> >three or four day holliday weekend--assuming no one would go in just to >> >fix mail for a company that's not open for business. >> > >> > >> >On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote: >> > >> >> Well, I am not sure what you mean when you say that Sendmail daemon slows >> >> down the system. It certainly doesn't in my case. My Sendmail simply tries >> >> the message and if the connection is not present, itwill try later. I >> >> wouldn't keep my mail for four days waiting to be sent! >> >> Vic >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> >> >> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >> >> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 2:44 PM >> >> Subject: Re: Standalone E-Mail >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hi, Victor: >> >> > >> >> > Well, and it makes sense. I guess I just don't see the logic of having a >> >> > mailor like sendmail always active if it can't be doing its job. Only >> >> > slows down system performance. >> >> > >> >> > Besides, it's really cool to be able to write and queu mail while >> >> > off-line. It's useful, for example, if I'm sitting in a conference and >> >> > someone says to me, "Can you send me that in email?" I just do it right >> >> > then. >> >> > >> >> > Janina >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > Hi, Janina! >> >> > > I just wrote the same advice to Brad on another list. What a >> >> coincidence! >> >> > > Regards, >> >> > > Vic >> >> > > >> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> >> >> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >> >> > > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 8:48 AM >> >> > > Subject: Standalone E-Mail >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > Hi, Brett: >> >> > > > >> >> > > > I just wanted to drop you note about how I handle mail on my notebook >> >> > > > computer. Needless to say, it's off-line a lot. First, it's not my >> >> main >> >> > > > machine when I'm in the office, and it's off-line a lot when I travel >> >> > > > because I'm on a plane, or something. Becides, in places like Europe, >> >> it's >> >> > > > far too expensive to just leave it up online from one's hotel room. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > So, here's what I do. I hope it helps you: >> >> > > > >> >> > > > 1.) I use fetchmail to get all of my incoming mail from my isp after >> >> > > > establishing a ppp connection; >> >> > > > >> >> > > > 2.) Since I use sendmail as my mailor, I then issue the command -- >> >> > > > >> >> > > > sendmail -q0 >> >> > > > >> >> > > > that's send mail dash q zero >> >> > > > >> >> > > > to dump the messages that have been qued for transmittal. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > This works because sendmail is not loaded as a daemon on my system. >> >> It's >> >> > > > only active when I issue the command above, or another specific >> >> sendmail >> >> > > > command. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > This way, I can write all the messages I want in Pine without >> trouble, >> >> > > > whether or not I'm writing on the airplane, or at my desk in my room, >> >> and >> >> > > > whether or not I'm online when I write them. They're simply qued for >> >> later >> >> > > > transmittal, which is accomplished by the sendmail -q0 command once >> >> I'm >> >> > > > online. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > PS: I've also set the smtp address in my Pine configuration to my >> isp. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > -- >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Janina Sajka, Director >> >> > > > Information Systems Research & Development >> >> > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) >> >> > > > >> >> > > > janina at afb.net >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> >> > > > Speakup mailing list >> >> > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> >> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ >> >> > > Speakup mailing list >> >> > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> >> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > >> >> > Janina Sajka, Director >> >> > Information Systems Research & Development >> >> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) >> >> > >> >> > janina at afb.net >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Speakup mailing list >> >> > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Speakup mailing list >> >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >> > >> >-- >> > >> > Janina Sajka, Director >> > Information Systems Research & Development >> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) >> > >> >janina at afb.net >> > >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Speakup mailing list >> >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >-- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Information Systems Research & Development > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > >janina at afb.net > > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >
