No, they do not bounce. Mail simply queus until our server is back online. Our current isp is concentric. Previously we were using Digex with the same behavior. PS: When we first set up our mail service back around 1997 we actually tested this by intentionally killing the sendmail processes for a weekend. On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, brent harding wrote: > Do they bounce mail right away, those warnings that listservers > auto-unsubscribe you because of? > My provider seems to be down enough to be kicked off of lists some times, > thanks to their majordomo bounce script. If there was intelligence in that > thing to not unsubscribe you because of a warning. > At 06:53 PM 6/25/00 -0400, you wrote: > >It slows the boot process considerably on my system. > > > >Also, I was not suggesting keeping a queu of outgoing mail for 4 or 5 > >days. I was saying that our isp holds our incoming mail that long, giving > >us a chance to fix whatever it is that is keeping us off-line. This is > >sufficient to hold mail should the server go down at the beginning of a > >three or four day holliday weekend--assuming no one would go in just to > >fix mail for a company that's not open for business. > > > > > >On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote: > > > >> Well, I am not sure what you mean when you say that Sendmail daemon slows > >> down the system. It certainly doesn't in my case. My Sendmail simply tries > >> the message and if the connection is not present, itwill try later. I > >> wouldn't keep my mail for four days waiting to be sent! > >> Vic > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> > >> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > >> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 2:44 PM > >> Subject: Re: Standalone E-Mail > >> > >> > >> > Hi, Victor: > >> > > >> > Well, and it makes sense. I guess I just don't see the logic of having a > >> > mailor like sendmail always active if it can't be doing its job. Only > >> > slows down system performance. > >> > > >> > Besides, it's really cool to be able to write and queu mail while > >> > off-line. It's useful, for example, if I'm sitting in a conference and > >> > someone says to me, "Can you send me that in email?" I just do it right > >> > then. > >> > > >> > Janina > >> > > >> > > >> > On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote: > >> > > >> > > Hi, Janina! > >> > > I just wrote the same advice to Brad on another list. What a > >> coincidence! > >> > > Regards, > >> > > Vic > >> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net> > >> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > >> > > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 8:48 AM > >> > > Subject: Standalone E-Mail > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Hi, Brett: > >> > > > > >> > > > I just wanted to drop you note about how I handle mail on my notebook > >> > > > computer. Needless to say, it's off-line a lot. First, it's not my > >> main > >> > > > machine when I'm in the office, and it's off-line a lot when I travel > >> > > > because I'm on a plane, or something. Becides, in places like Europe, > >> it's > >> > > > far too expensive to just leave it up online from one's hotel room. > >> > > > > >> > > > So, here's what I do. I hope it helps you: > >> > > > > >> > > > 1.) I use fetchmail to get all of my incoming mail from my isp after > >> > > > establishing a ppp connection; > >> > > > > >> > > > 2.) Since I use sendmail as my mailor, I then issue the command -- > >> > > > > >> > > > sendmail -q0 > >> > > > > >> > > > that's send mail dash q zero > >> > > > > >> > > > to dump the messages that have been qued for transmittal. > >> > > > > >> > > > This works because sendmail is not loaded as a daemon on my system. > >> It's > >> > > > only active when I issue the command above, or another specific > >> sendmail > >> > > > command. > >> > > > > >> > > > This way, I can write all the messages I want in Pine without > trouble, > >> > > > whether or not I'm writing on the airplane, or at my desk in my room, > >> and > >> > > > whether or not I'm online when I write them. They're simply qued for > >> later > >> > > > transmittal, which is accomplished by the sendmail -q0 command once > >> I'm > >> > > > online. > >> > > > > >> > > > PS: I've also set the smtp address in my Pine configuration to my > isp. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > -- > >> > > > > >> > > > Janina Sajka, Director > >> > > > Information Systems Research & Development > >> > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > >> > > > > >> > > > janina at afb.net > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > Speakup mailing list > >> > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > Speakup mailing list > >> > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > Janina Sajka, Director > >> > Information Systems Research & Development > >> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > >> > > >> > janina at afb.net > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Speakup mailing list > >> > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > > > >-- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Information Systems Research & Development > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > >janina at afb.net > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Information Systems Research & Development American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) janina at afb.net
