Oh yeah! I always backup everything, not. It is one of those things which you kick yourself for when something goes wrong, and you swear you'll back up everything from here on out. Then when the emergency is over, somehow life gets to busy to sit down and do the futzieness to get it all working just right. Actually, I am going to do something this time. No! really! Trust me! Probably distribute services accross a number of machines as backups. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061