If any of you are having problems getting kernels to build with redHat, you can Email me at barryp at hurontel.on.ca I have built severel of them in the last month. The reason patches fail is because the file being patched has been modified by a previous patch. I left a message a couple of weeks ago with instructions, that is, what i did to get my system working. It is in the archives on Kirk's site. Barry