Hi gang - I just finished upgrading from kernel 2.2.14 to 2.2.15, from speakup 0.08 to 0.09, and from load_spk 0.6 to 0.8. So far everything I have tried has worked without any hitches. Keep up the good work, Kirk - the check is in the mail! <sure> Chuck. My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh While money doesn't buy love, it puts you in a great bargaining position.