I got it just fine from the Realnetworks site, but maybe I was lucky. You have to feed the Cookie Monster a few times, but that's not such a big deal in lynx. You can turn on cookie processing and accept_all_cookies, but if you don't have a cookie file defined, they just vaporize when you end your lynx session. Isn't that sad? Anyway, if you can't or don't want to turn on the cookies, remember that you will get prompted additionally to accept them. Watch the crumbs; They kind of mess up your keyboard. I typed: lynx http://www.realnetworks.com This gives a home page with only one selection and that is another link to real. Take it. You have no other choice. Now, type /free and then Enter. This gets you to a link to download realplayer 8 free. But I want 7! Quiet, kid, or I'll nail your other foot to the floor. This link is the one you want. Trust me. Take that link and then type /7 and then Enter. This puts you on the link that says "realplayer 7 still available" Now you're getting closer. Take that link and you get the screen that extols the virtues of the Plus version that you must buy and also lets you get the free or Basic version. Just type /basic and Enter to skip the ads and get to the next link you wanted. After you take that one, you start filling out the form which will select which version, etc. When you get to the UNIX choices, use the lynx text finder again to select /rpm which puts you right on the correct archive. Remember to select a version that most closely agrees with your connection speed. The buffering and sampling rates are optimized for each speed so you will have grief if you get the wrong one. This is purely a technical consideration and not just something else designed to make your life rough. I noticed another couple of annoying things that you will discover. As you near the end of the form, there is an ad cleverly included for selling a long-distance service and some other accessories that you must get around. Just tab through that and then there is a check box with an X already conveniently defaulted in to it to allow Realnetworks to "notify" you of new developments. In lynx, if you just hit Enter at that point, the X goes away although spam from other companies that happen to share the list probably doesn't. After that, it is just a download and save process. Happy downloading. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK OSU Center for Computing and Information Services Data Communications Group