Ameer, Speakup is command line based because Linux is cammond line based. While you can run X, developing a screen reader for it is a lot bigger job and the other Kirk (awsome programmer Kirk) chose to tackle the command line version. The truth is that while the graphical interface makes things easier for some people, it has come with a high price for many others. I am not convinced it has to be this way, but to not be this way would require considering alternate access from the begining. The fact is that Windows screen readers have cobbled access to the operating system. Microsoft breaks them on a regular basis without warning (or regard) to the companies making them. ======= Kirk Wood Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net Cluelessness There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots