Thanks Geoff, This tips the scales... I'm switching to Debian! Actually, I've already installed the base 2.2 system on a partition. I used the 'compact' install method as outlined in the installation manual, downloading diskette images of: boot.bin, root.bin and drivers-1.bin, and a base2.2 .tgz file on another partition. I can now boot this base system from the HD. BUT... Now I need some help. the installation manuaal says to use 'DSelect', which looks to be a frontend for the 'apt-get' prog that you mentioned below.. The newarest mirror to me is: ftp://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ So, I put these lines into /etc/apt/sources.list: deb ftp://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb ftp://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian dists potato main deb ftp://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian dists potato main binary-i386 deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists potato main disks-i386 current deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists potato main binary-i386 Still doesn't work. It gives erros when tryig to update the packages list. Can you tell me the syntax of the /etc/apt/sources.list file? or am I missing something else? Maybe I'd be better to do the whole installation with apt-get? how? I have a funcional pppoe link on ADSL through eth0. Have to initialize it manually in another console before running dselect (or apt-get?). No proxy servers involved. Will the Debian kernels (v2.1), that are on the speakup ftp site work for installing v2.2? Could I cp one for my LiteTalk into /boot, configure/run lilo and boot up talking from the HD? or just boot from a floppy made for the v2.1 install with speakup on it? Any suggestions? Thanks again. On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Geoff Shang wrote: > Hi Terry: > > Debian is cooler. What you do is set up the apt package config file called > /etc/apt/sources.list so that it knows on what FTP sites the distribution > lives. This should be the closest one to you wherever possible. Then you > just do: > > apt-get update > apt-get dist-upgrade > > The first command updates the list of available packages and version > details, dependancies, etc. The second upgrades your distribution, either > to a more up-to-date version of your current release or to the next one, > depending on what you've put in the sources.list file. Note that this only > upgrades packages currently installed on your system. > > You can also do neat things like: > > apt-get install <packagename> > > which will go out to the net and grab and install the requested > package. Cool or what? Of course, you can also use CD's as sources. > > Geoff. > > > > -- --terry Name: Terry D. Cudney Phone: (905)735-6127 E-mail: terry at wasagacottage.com WWW: www.wasagacottage.com Postal: 18 Colbeck Drive, WELLAND, ON L3C 5B5