Hi Folks: I have declared the birth of the first draft of cursoring in cvs. I have also made the fixes to allow speakup to compile once again under the test kernels 2.4.0-test5 and above. If you are a bleeding edge style person you can get a checkout script from one of us many geeks you'll find hanging around bleeding all over each other. If you are not comfortable with strange concepts like cvs and compiling 'c' code and so forth then forget you ever saw this message. Kirk