Kirk, The braille-style keyboard has its advantages but limits the speed with which you can input information. When using a BNS, I need to concentrate on pressing the key combinations accurately or I end up with missing dots. Also, while on the subject of keys, you might want to consider using a menu tree to drive the device. Again, a major drawback of the bns is its reliance on memorizing a gazillion chording commands. Chris 73, Chris w1gm at sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org