Heh, here is me, trying to be all smart and upgrade to ALSA 0.5.7 from a nice (working) ALSA 0.4.1. Now, it does exactly what the ALSA 0.5.0 did a long time ago--no sound drivers load. When my system is rebooting, I get "device or resource busy" when it tries to load the module;if I try to load it with insmod snd-card-sb16 (or snd-card-sbawe) I get all manner of version conflicts. I even recompiled with --with-isapnp=yes (even though I didn't really have to last time), and the compile didn't crash and burn and do anything that looked too hideous. What do I be missing? -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV | And if the ground yawned, Email: davros at ycardz.com | I'd step to the side and say, Phone: (972) 889-8147 | "Hey ground! I'm nobody's lunch!" Voice mail: (877) 791-5298 | --Eddie From Ohio