On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 06:15:51PM +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: > On 17/01/2024 17:19, Frank Li wrote: > >> > >> Not really, because compatible describes hardware and it is the same > >> hardware here. We do not have two different compatibles for GPIOs being > >> input or output. Or two different compatibles for serial engines (ones > >> providing UART, SPI or I2C). > > > > GPIO and UART is simple. Actuall SPI and I2C have two mode, slave and > > I talked about serial engines which can be multiple: UART, SPI and I2C. > > > master. Many SPI/I2C is dual mode controller. Just seldom use slave mode > > at linux side. So you just see master mode SPI/I2C controller in dt-binding > > and dts file. So few people upstream slave part to linux kernel community. > > They have the exact same problems if support slave mode. > > > > PCI is typical example: > > EP mode: Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pci/qcom,pcie-ep.yaml > > RC mode: Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pci/qcom,pcie.yaml > > > > Which is the same hardware for two difference compatible string. > > That's the only case, I recall. As my knowledge, yes. > > >> > >>> > >>> I can write git commit message like: > >>> > >>> dt-bindings: i3c: svc: add compatible string nxp,imx93-svc-i3c-target > >>> > >>> silvaco i3c controller is dual mode controller, which can work as master > >>> and target mode. All clock, reg, irq are the same for both mode. Add > >>> compatible string "nxp,imx93-svc-i3c-target" to let silivaco i3c > >>> controller work as target mode. > >>> > >>> Of course, alternate method to added a property "mode" to distingiush > >>> master and target mode. but old "silvaco,i3c-master-v1" will actually work > >>> as dual mode support. Driver structure will become complex. > >> > >> Please send full DTS of user for this, which works for 100%, so we can > >> see how it differs from controller mode. If your code snippet from other > >> thread is correct, then it would suggest "mode" property or lack of > >> children. Maybe lack of children is not enough, if user-space could > >> control I3C bus. > > > > According to current implment, only need change imx93.dtsi's @i3c1's > > compatible string to "silvaco,i3c-target-v1". I attached imx93 dts node for > > your reference. > > > > i3c1: i3c-master@44330000 { > > compatible = "silvaco,i3c-master-v1"; > > ^^^^ only need change here! > > Nope, don't change compatibles of existing nodes. Unreadable and > unmanageable code. It is just show minimize difference. Normally, it should be. i3c1: i3c-master@44330000 { ... compatible = "silvaco,i3c-master-v1"; ... status = disabled; } i3c1-target: i3c-target@44330000 { ... compatible = "silvaco,i3c-target-v1"; ... status = disabled; } in board dts @i3c1{ status = "okay"; } Or @i3c1-target{ status = "okay"; } > > > > > reg = <0x44330000 0x10000>; > > interrupts = <GIC_SPI 12 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>; > > #address-cells = <3>; > > #size-cells = <0>; > > clocks = <&clk IMX93_CLK_BUS_AON>, > > <&clk IMX93_CLK_I3C1_GATE>, > > <&clk IMX93_CLK_I3C1_SLOW>; > > clock-names = "pclk", "fast_clk", "slow_clk"; > > dmas = <&edma1 6 0 1>, <&edma1 5 0 0>; > > dma-names = "rx", "tx"; > > status = "disabled"; > > }; > > That's not a patch for existing file. I did not claim you cannot write > such DTS. I claimed you don't have such DTS for upstream... Yes, it need finialize this topic before handle dts upstream. > > > > > For master mode: > > Unlike i2c. Genenally I3C can auto probe children node like USB can auto > > detect attached devices. So I3C master can work without children nodes. > > Such as auto load i3c sensor driver according to i3c standard vendor id and > > production id. > > Then presence of children cannot be used. > > > > > For target mode: using configfs to controller I3C. > > > > mkdir /sys/kernel/config/i3c_target/functions/tty/t > > echo 0x011b > /sys/kernel/config/i3c_target/functions/tty/t/vendor_id > > echo 0x1000 > /sys/kernel/config/i3c_target/functions/tty/t/part_id > > echo 0x6 > /sys/kernel/config/i3c_target/functions/tty/t/bcr > > > > ln -s /sys/kernel/config/i3c_target/functions/tty/t /sys/kernel/config/i3c_target/controllers/44330000.i3c-master/ > > > > Then you echo test >/dev/ttySI3C0. > > > > Unlike USB, user can switch host and gadget mode dymatically. Suppose I3C > > only work on one of master or slave mode only, which is static. > > I don't understand this. So it can switch dynamically or not? I3C Protocal allow do that. But no one really do that. > > > > > Although it is one hardware, I think it is exculsive multi function device. > > Just like serial engines. Do you see there replacing compatibles? No. > > > > > Summary: basice two option to distingiush controller and target mode. > > 1. by "compatible" string > > 2. by "mode" > > > > I think 1 is relatively simple and easy to understand. > > Eh, if you only saw my comments on people replacing compatibles... > Anyway, I stated my reasons, so to reiterate: NAK. I know it. Needn't emphase it every time. Is using "mode" ('controller' and 'target') proptery okay? Frank > > Best regards, > Krzysztof >