On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 4:20 PM Pali Rohár <pali@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Friday 08 July 2022 15:51:01 Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 08, 2022 at 03:26:21PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote: > > > On Friday 08 July 2022 15:07:43 Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 07, 2022 at 10:48:40AM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote: > > > > > On Friday 22 April 2022 16:28:06 Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: ... > > > > I'm not saying remove them, I'm saying let us not add any more > > > > dependancies on them in order to keep new applications from ever wanting > > > > to use them. > > > > > > Last time you wrote to remove them. Now saying not to remove them. So I > > > do not understand you now. There was a _new_ addition of the ugly SPD_CUST, that's what I believe Greg opposes to. And I support that. > > I'm sorry, I am totally lost. > > So look what you have wrote? Who is lost here is me. > > > How about starting over and resubmitting > > the changes you want and we can go from there. > > What to resubmit? I do not understand you. In case you lost emails or > accidentally removed them, you can look at them in archive, not? I hope > that you do not want me to copy+paste all existing patches with all your > quotes on them which you wrote into new emails. That change that adds the new user of SPD_CUST? In any case the best summary about BOTHER I ever read is this [1] (and an initial steps in picocom [2]). And I believe that instead of SPD_CUST we should get rid (or at least minimize) the problems with BOTHER in user space. [1]: https://github.com/npat-efault/picocom/blob/master/termios2.txt [2]: https://github.com/jmesmon/picocom/issues/2 -- With Best Regards, Andy Shevchenko