Hi Linux-Serial, I was fixing "pirate-loader" for BusPirate device, firmware loader utility. The design followed documentation for serial communication for "row" serial mode but it was not working. I modified flags and utility works now but my modification doesn't match documentation. That is strange from my point of view. Have I discovered a bug in the kernel? Could you check?? Details are here, second comment, the long one: https://github.com/BusPirate/Bus_Pirate/issues/140 This is the core of my fix, I changed CSIZE flag: cfmakeraw(&g_new_tio); - g_new_tio.c_cflag |= (CS8 | CLOCAL | CREAD); - g_new_tio.c_cflag &= ~(PARENB | CSTOPB | CSIZE); - g_new_tio.c_oflag = 0; - g_new_tio.c_lflag = 0; + g_new_tio.c_cflag |= (CS8 | CSIZE | CLOCAL | CREAD); + g_new_tio.c_cflag &= ~(PARENB | CSTOPB); + //g_new_tio.c_oflag = 0; + //g_new_tio.c_lflag = 0; When I write about wrong documentation, that information is on many places including "man cfmakeraw": termios_p->c_iflag &= ~(IGNBRK | BRKINT | PARMRK | ISTRIP | INLCR | IGNCR | ICRNL | IXON); termios_p->c_oflag &= ~OPOST; termios_p->c_lflag &= ~(ECHO | ECHONL | ICANON | ISIG | IEXTEN); termios_p->c_cflag &= ~(CSIZE | PARENB); termios_p->c_cflag |= CS8; With regards, Petr BTW, I tried to send this email to Greg KH first but he asked me to send my email to this group because his INBOX is full of unread messages (912 messages in /home/greg/mail/INBOX/). That is not so bad, I have more than 5000 unread messages in my INBOX... ;-)