Hi Nikolaus, >>>> I am actually not convinced that GPS should be represented as >>>> /dev/ttyS0 or similar TTY. It think they deserve their own driver >>>> exposing them as simple character devices. That way we can have a >>>> proper DEVTYPE and userspace can find them correctly. We can also >>>> annotate them if needed for special settings. >>> >>> I would _love_ to see that happen, but what about the GPS line >>> discipline that we have today? How would that match up with a char >>> device driver? >> >> ./drivers/usb/serial/garmin_gps.c ? >> >> Hmm, some cleanups would be welcome there... plus it would be good to >> know what is its interface to userland... it is not easily apparent >> from the code. >> >> Actually, having some kind of common support for GPSes in the kernel >> would be nice. (Chardev that spits NMEA data? > > Yes and no. How do you apply tcsetattr to such a device? More or less > by implementing another tty stack? > >> ) For example N900 GPS is >> connected over network (phonet) interface, with userland driver >> translating custom protocol into NMEA. Not very nice from "kernel >> should provide hardware abstraction" point of view. > > Indeed. In such a case the translation should be done in the kernel. > But it is not necessary for devices that already provide NEMA over UART. > Still user-space should be able to tcsetattr how it wants to see the records > (mainly CR/LF translations). I disagree here. NMEA is a standard and the kernel should just enforce framing of NMEA sentences. It makes no difference what the CR/LF is. Userspace gets full sentences. Regards Marcel -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-serial" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html