From: Marcelo Ricardo Leitner > Sent: 30 March 2016 13:13 > Em 30-03-2016 06:37, David Laight escreveu: > > From: Marcelo Ricardo Leitner > >> Sent: 29 March 2016 14:42 > >> > >> Currently on high rate SCTP streams the heartbeat timer refresh can > >> consume quite a lot of resources as timer updates are costly and it > >> contains a random factor, which a) is also costly and b) invalidates > >> mod_timer() optimization for not editing a timer to the same value. > >> It may even cause the timer to be slightly advanced, for no good reason. > > > > Interesting thoughts: > > 1) Is it necessary to use a different 'random factor' until the timer actually > > expires? > > I don't understand you fully here, but we have to have a random factor > on timer expire. As noted by Daniel Borkmann on his commit 8f61059a96c2 > ("net: sctp: improve timer slack calculation for transport HBs"): When a HEARTBEAT chunk is sent determine the new interval, use that interval until the timer actually expires when a new interval is calculated. So the random number is only generated once per heartbeat. > RFC4960, section 8.3 says: > > On an idle destination address that is allowed to heartbeat, > it is recommended that a HEARTBEAT chunk is sent once per RTO > of that destination address plus the protocol parameter > 'HB.interval', with jittering of +/- 50% of the RTO value, > and exponential backoff of the RTO if the previous HEARTBEAT > is unanswered. > > Previous to his commit, it was using a random factor based on jiffies. > > This patch then assumes that random_A+2 is just as random as random_B as > long as it is within the allowed range, avoiding the unnecessary updates. > > > 2) It might be better to allow the heartbeat timer to expire, on expiry work > > out the new interval based on when the last 'refresh' was done. > > Cool, I thought about this too. It would introduce some extra complexity > that is not really worth I think, specially because now we may be doing > more timer updates even with this patch but it's not triggering any wake > ups and we would need at least 2 wake ups then: one for the first > timeout event, and then re-schedule the timer for the next updated one, > and maybe again, and again.. less timer updates but more wake ups, one > at every heartbeat interval even on a busy transport. Seems it's cheaper > to just update the timer then. One wakeup per heartbeat interval on a busy connection is probably noise. Probably much less than the 1000s of timer updates that would otherwise happen. A further optimisation would be to restart the timer if more than (say) 80% of the way through the timeout period. Similarly the HEARTBEAT could be sent if the 2nd wakeup would be almost immediate. David -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-sctp" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html