On 02/08/2016 12:07 AM, James Bottomley wrote: > On Sun, 2016-02-07 at 15:28 -0700, Jens Axboe wrote: >> On 02/07/2016 09:04 AM, James Bottomley wrote: >>> On Sun, 2016-02-07 at 10:22 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: >>>> Keith said it should be on by default, and I promised him to >>>> change >>>> it once we run into problems, which I guess this counts as. >>>> >>>> But just curious: what distro are you using? Upstream systemd >>>> explicitly rejected using scsi_id for NVMe here: >>>> >>>> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/1453 >>>> >>>> and all my test systems don't do this either. >>> >>> This was SUSE (in my case, openSUSE Leap). I just checked the >>> source >>> package; they patch the by-id rules back in for NVME: >>> >>> # PATCH-FIX-SUSE 1101-rules-persistent-device-names-for-NVMe >>> -devices.patch (bsc#944132) >>> Patch1101: 1101-rules-persistent-device-names-for-NVMe >>> -devices.patch >>> >>> The bugzilla is giving access denied for bug id 944132, so it's >>> likely >>> some proprietary vendor problem. The patch has no preamble, so >>> it's >>> hard to tell what they were thinking. >> >> I run root-on-nvme on my laptop, and I haven't observed any problems. > > Me too apparently. It looks like this problem may be SUSE specific > unless another distro has enabled this. I can see why they would: you > do need persistent names for devices, even NVMe ones. > >> Generally I hate for options to default y unless absolutely >> necessary, it's a sure fire way to feature creep your kernel without >> noticing. I don't think getting all hot about this issue is fair, if >> the only known case is suse. > > Well, OK, I'm annoyed because it was a systemd system which means > debugging boot failures are excruciatingly difficult so it took me a > week and a half to find out what the problem was. Perhaps I was a bit > rash to label this as an easily foreseen problem. > > I opened a bug against SUSE to tell them to turn it on: > > https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=965497 > > The second problem is that there's currently no way to transition to > using the serial attribute the way the udev 60-persistent-storage.rules > are written, so if distros have some by-id hack, it will have to be > maintained for a while. I annotated the already closed bug on this in > systemd with the rules that work for me. > Why, but you can. That's precisely what I did with the transition to sg_inq; I've added a new set of rules (55-sg_inq.rules and 59-sg-symlinks.rules) which will override the values from 60-persistent-storage.rules. Do we have defined sysfs attributes for NVMe devices nowadays? If so I'd be willing to create/send some sysfs rules for them. Cheers, Hannes -- Dr. Hannes Reinecke Teamlead Storage & Networking hare@xxxxxxx +49 911 74053 688 SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg GF: F. Imendörffer, J. Smithard, J. Guild, D. Upmanyu, G. Norton HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html