On Fri, Jan 08, 2016 at 03:34:37PM +0000, John Garry wrote: > > >>>>+Optional main node properties: > >>>>+ - am-max-trans : limit controller for am max transmissions > >>> > >>>Is this a boolean? Number? > >>> > >> > >>This is a boolean. It is for dealing with a quirk in the chipset: an > >>instance of the controller in the hip06 chipset requires registers > >>set with a different init value. > > > >Ok. I think the property at needs a better description for that. > > > >It's not clear to me how "limit controller for am max transmissions" > >maps to writing a specific value to some registers, but I don't know > >much about SAS. > > > >Is this some well-known thing, or values specific to hip06? > > > >Thanks, > >Mark. > > > > This is a specific issue for hip06 chipset. Ok. So is this: * a bug within the SAS controller in hip06, or: * a requirement/bug of an endpoint attached to the controller, or: * a requirement/bug of some interconnect between the controller and endpoint, or: * some other integration bug? Please describe what the issue is that you're trying to work around, not only your solution to it. > There is a bug in the HW on hip06 where controller #1 has to set to 2 > registers to non-default values to limit "am-max-transmissions". I got that. However, I have no idea what "am-max-transmissions" is, no idea why you need to limit it (hopefully you can describe that a little better above), nor what the semantics are for "limit". The description of the property is an imperative, which reads like a description of a specific driver behaviour rather than a property of the hardware that leads to that behaviour being necessary. That's a warning sign that the property is ill-defined, and we may encounter problems in future due to changes in Linux. Without knowing _why_ it's necessary to limit this, it's not possible to know if the property is both necessary and sufficient to solve the problem such that it doesn't rear its ugly head in future. For example, if this is simply one way to work around a hip06-specific integration bug that we cannot imagine occurring elsewhere, it may be better to instead key off of a platform-specific compatible string for the v2 SAS controller in hip06. That gives us more freedom to apply different workarounds if we have to. I see that the presence of this property will cause the driver to writes hard-coded values two two registers. Not knowing the format of those registers, their default values, nor how they respond to writes, I can't tell: * If the writes have other effects. * If the limit is a single bit being flipped (i.e. this is a boolean in hardware too). * If the limit is some arbitrary chosen value which is not described in the property or the binding, nor what that value is. If we encounter a similar bug requiring a different bound in future, it may be problematic to have chosen an arbitrary fixed value, and it may make more sense to describe the value in the DT. So, please: * Update the DT property description to describe the specific HW issue that needs to be worked around, with a full description in the commit message. * Add a comment to the driver to explain what the effect of the register writes is intended to be, i.e. what value am max transmissions is being set to, and why that value isn't arbitrary. > This would not be a common SAS/SCSI controller property and is > specific to our HW. Ok. Thanks, Mark. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html