On Mon, 2012-01-09 at 13:18 +0100, Hannes Reinecke wrote: > On 12/22/2011 09:54 PM, Shyam_Iyer@xxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: linux-scsi-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:linux-scsi- > >> owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vivek Goyal > >> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:59 AM > >> To: Iyer, Shyam > >> Cc: rwheeler@xxxxxxxxxx; linux-fsdevel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; linux- > >> scsi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] linux servers as a storage server - what's > >> missing? > >> > >> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 01:44:16PM +0530, Shyam_Iyer@xxxxxxxx wrote: > >> > >> [..] > >> > >>> Simple asks - > >>> 1) Provide a consistent storage and fs management library that > >> discourages folks to write their own usespace storage library. Include > >> things like fs formatting(fs profiles), transport configuration(eg: > >> iscsiadm as a library), thin provisioning watermarks, cluster > >> management, apis for cgroups etc. > >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >> For cgroups, we have libcgroup library. Not many people like to use it > >> though as cgroup is exported as a filesystem and they prefer to use > >> normal > >> libc api to traverse and configure cgroups (Instead of going through > >> another library). Some examples include libvrit, systemd. > >> > >> Thanks > >> Vivek > > > > Well honestly I think that is a libvirt/systemd issue and libvirt also > > invokes things like iscsiadm, dcb etc as a binary :-/ > > > > Some one could always use qemu command lines to invoke KVM/XEN but > > libvirt has saved me one too many days in doing a quick operation > > without wondering about a qemu commandline. > > > > I am also asking for ideas on how to avoid this fragmentation because > > just like libvirt others are also encouraged to do their own libc > thing > > in the absence of a common storage management framework.. > > > > Does the standard interface for linux end at the user/kernel boundary > > or the user/libc boundary? If so I feel we would continue to lag > behind > > other OSes in features because of the model. > > > StorageAPI _again_. > > I was under the impression RH had someone working on it. Yes, Red Hat does. Tony Asleson. libStorageMgmt: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/libstoragemgmt The current focus is on managing external storage (SMI-S, etc.). This focus can be expanded over time. Contributions welcome. > (Actually I was trying to give it a go, but then got buried under > customer escalations). > > So yes, we know there is a shortcoming. > And yes, we should improve things. > > But I feel another discussion about this will only give us more > insight, but not moving things forward. > > What about having a separate session at the storage summit (or even > at the collab summit) to hammer out the requirements here? That would be fine, although as you say, we need more than talk. Tom -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
