Re: target userspace utils (rtsadmin) project is dysfunctional

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Repost including target-devel and linux-scsi lists.
Sorry for the noise.

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Jerome Martin
<jxm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Andy,
> I am not so much interested in your "calculation" than on having a list of
> checkpoints that you feel would be important to improve in order to have a
> better OSS project. In all good faith, I can assure you this is all I (we)
> are looking for, within the limits of time & resources available.
> As for the emails I did not (never, really ?) answer, apart from the
> vacation pointed out by Nic, I guess I must have erased part of my mailbox
> inadvertently then, because I do not have them in my todo box, in which I
> normally have everything not handled yet.
>
> Anyway, thanks for saying rtsadmin is a nice piece of code, I hope we can
> improve it with as much enlightened (read from people using it ;-) ) input
> as possible.
> And again, I really am eager to take your suggestions about how to improve
> the docs and processes, these are vast topics and the best places to start
> might not be always intuitive when you are deep into the code itself. I
> engaged huge efforts in making rtsadmin self-documenting as possible, with a
> lot of documentation in the code itself, but clearly this is not enough. I
> assume there might be some easy to do pieces of doc that could improve
> dramatically the user experience, but am unsure what they are (install ?
> packaging ? building from source ? quickstart ? so many things to do...).
> As for what's planned, the next items on my community todo are to adapt the
> build process to export a versioned tarball so distros and everyone else can
> get a fixed version release without having to go through the git-dependent
> build process, fix the tags exports to the community repository (some script
> is blocking somewhere in the chain of autocommits) and write a quick "how to
> build packages" howto. Do those sound reasonable to you or would you put
> something higher on the priority list ?
> One last thing I need to say is that the company as a whole as a very
> favorable view of anything that can improve the community experience, so
> every misimplementation of that policy is to blame on me. Unfortunately I
> might have a hard time managing priorities and workload, and this apparently
> led to regrettable effects on the OSS project.
> Thanks for both the kind and critical words, but now you've said too much to
> withhold the constructive mentoring any longer ;-)
> Kind Regards,
> Jerome
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Andy Grover <agrover@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jerome and Nick,
>>
>> I happened upon this website:
>>
>>
>> http://www.theopensourceway.org/book/The_Open_Source_Way-How_to_tell_if_a_FLOSS_project_is_doomed_to_FAIL.html
>>
>> According to my calculations (available upon request), rtsadmin comes in
>> at 220 points: "so much fail, your code should have its own reality TV
>> show".
>>
>> I could also add some more like "primary developer never responds to
>> email", "CLA discourages external contributions", and "uses executable
>> name as corporate marketing tool".
>>
>> Admittedly rtsadmin is a nice piece of code, thanks btw, but your
>> company is falling short of accepted standards for stewardship of a
>> FLOSS project. Please tell me why we all wouldn't be better off if I
>> forked rtsadmin tomorrow.
>>
>> Regards -- Andy
>
>
>
> --
> Jérôme Martin
>



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Jérôme Martin
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