Re: [RFC] relaxed barrier semantics

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On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 05:11:56PM +0400, Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote:
> Chris Mason, on 08/02/2010 09:39 PM wrote:
> >I regret putting the ordering into the original barrier code...it
> >definitely did help reiserfs back in the day but it stinks of magic and
> >voodoo.
> 
> But if the ordering isn't in the common (block) code, how to
> implement the "hardware offload" for ordering, i.e. ORDERED
> commands, in an acceptable way?
> 
> I believe, the decision was right, but the flags and magic requests
> based interface (and, hence, implementation) was wrong. That's it
> which stinks of magic and voodoo.

The interface definitely has flaws.  We didn't expand it because James
popped up with a long list of error handling problems.  Basically how
do the hardware and the kernel deal with a failed request at the start
of the chain.  Somehow the easy way of failing them all turned out to be
extremely difficult.

Even if that part had been refined, I think trusting the ordering down
to the lower layers was a doomed idea.  The list of ways it could go
wrong is much much longer (and harder to debug) than the list of
benefits.

With all of that said, I did go ahead and benchmark real ordered tags
extensively on a scsi drive in the initial implementation.  There was
very little performance difference.

-chris

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