On 7 May, Tino Keitel wrote at LKML and LSML: [PL-3507 in Raidsonic Icy Box needs power condition 2 or 3 in the START STOP UNIT command in order to spin down] > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 15:31:41 +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: >> According to the description of Active, >> Idle, Standby, Sleep in RBC, we do most certainly want code 1 on resume, >> and rather 3 than 2 on suspend. 5 instead of 3 or 2 might even be better > > FYI, sg_start --pc=3 also spins down the drive here. > >> from the POV of energy consumption but a "device reset may be required >> before access to the device is allowed" which I'd rather not deal with. >> >> Tino, does the scsi stack log the device as "Direct-Access-RBC" after it >> was plugged in? > > Yes: > > scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access-RBC WDC WD32 00JB-00KFA0 PQ: 0 ANSI: 4 I tested a few FireWire disks now. 1) FireWire to IDE or to SATA chipset 2) start bit is honored: "sg_start --stop" stops the motor and "sg_start" restarts it 3) power condition field is honored: "sg_start --pc=3" stops the motor and "sg_start --pc=1 restarts it 4) peripheral device type claimed by the firmware 5) vendor and model of the enclosure 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) bridge start pc PDT enclosure -------------------------------------------------------------- INIC-2430 yes yes SBC AVLAB 2.5" Drive Kit INIC-2430 yes yes SBC IOI FWB-IDE01AB, 1 HDD INIC-2430 yes yes SBC IOI FWB-IDE01AB, 2 HDDs, JBOD OXFW911 yes yes RBC MacPower Icecube OXUF922 yes yes RBC MacPower Icecube 800+ OXFW912 yes yes RBC MacPower Igloo OXFW912 yes yes RBC VulcanTech DualDrive 2nd gen. OXUF924DSB yes yes SBC MacPower Taurus, 1 HDD OXUF924DSB no no SBC MacPower Taurus, 2 HDDs, JBOD PL-3507 no no RBC MacPower Prefect II TSB42AA9 no yes SBC DViCO MomoBay CX-1 TSB42AA9A yes yes RBC DViCO MomoBay FX-3A General remarks: Several disks don't require an "sg_start" or "sg_start --pc=1" to spin up again; they do so on next access. Some even ignore "sg_start --pc=1" and do not start the motor until the next access (e.g. read access). I did not test systematically whether "sg_start" or "sg_start --pc=1" are required at all. (Proper support of "sg_start --pc=1" is beneficial in so far as the high-latency operation which spin-up is happens when it is expected, not sometime later.) The firmwares of CX-1, FX-3A, AVLAB, and Prefect II implement auto-spin-down after some time of inactivity (different from firmware to firmware) and auto-spin-up on subsequent access. Remarks on individual enclosures/ firmwares: MacPower Taurus --------------- I could not test RAID0 and RAID1 due to lack of spare disks. MacPower Prefect II ------------------- This is a 5.25" enclosure, i.e. primarily meant for CD/DVD-ROM/R/W. I tested it with a HDD here. The firmware is from MacPower, not from Prolific. Power conditions 2 or 5 don't spin the disk down either. MomoBay CX-1 ------------ "sg_start --stop" stops the motor, but "sg_start" fails with unit attention. Subsequent read commands after "sg_start --stop" time out. I.e. "sg_start --stop" causes CX-1 to go offline. It needs to be power-cycled after that. MomoBay FX-3A ------------- "sg_start --stop" works. "sg_start" ends with unit attention, but starts the motor. Subsequent read commands succeed. Conclusions so far: - Some PL-3507 based devices, notably those with a later firmware from Prolific, spin down if power condition 2 or 3 is set. Others don't. - The old and in several ways quirky DViCO CX-1 must not be exposed to START STOP UNIT with start flag off. - There is alas no correlation between the PDT and support for either variant of spin down/ spin up. I hope to test another PL-3507 device and an Apple Mac in target mode soon. I will then post a patch for the sbp2/scsi/sd stack based on Tino's patch and the current findings which switches all SBP-2 HDDs to using the power condition field in sd_start_stop_device(). I also have two devices which probably contain old SYM13FWxxx bridges. Alas I can't test them with HDDs because they are sealed CD-RW enclosures which cannot be opened without damage. -- Stefan Richter -=====-==--- -=-= -=--= http://arcgraph.de/sr/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html