Hi Jens, way back you introduced REQ_TYPE_LINUX_BLOCK requests as some sort of generic block layer messages. As it turns out, it is not quite obvious how to add support for this type of requests in the scsi subsystem properly. On the other hand, Boaz Harrosh has recently added support for variable length and in particular vendor specific CDBs to the scsi mid layer. My question to you and James is this: Would it make sense, in your opinion, to (ab)use BLOCK_PC requests carrying linux specific CDBs for those purposes you had in mind when introducing LINUX_BLOCK requests? This would make things much easier as far as scsi is concerned and it would still be possible to add suport for this kind of requests to non scsi drivers. On the other hand, this might constitute too serious a violation of the layers and subsystems involved as I'm not quite sure, for instance, where to keep the list of those linux specific opcodes -- include/linux/blkdev.h and include/scsi/scsi.h both don't seem quite right. The reason why I'm bothering you with all this is that I'm trying to get disk shock protection merged into mainline eventually; see the subthread starting at [1] for a preliminary patch series. Since I want to make this feature available to both, libata as well as ide, it is appealing to put the common bits (the timer and the user interface) into the block layer, thus avoiding code duplication. However, given the difficulties to realise this approach sanely, it might be better to leave the block layer out of it as far as possible. After all, it's the ATA specific feature (immediate disk head unloading) I really care for and by means of ioctls we could still provide an interface to userspace which doesn't depend on whether the device is managed by libata or ide. In fact, unless you are definitely in favour of the block layer approach (as realised in [2]) and can give me a hint as to how I could solve the problems described above, I will probably prepare a patch series using ioctls and post it on linux-ide. The reason is that this approach might even solve another problem I see further down the road. Thank you for your advice, Elias [1] <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ide/29519> [2] <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ide/29523> -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html