On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:07:07 +0100 Tomasz Chmielewski <mangoo@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > FUJITA Tomonori schrieb: > > On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:14:01 +0100 > > Tomasz Chmielewski <mangoo@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> James Bottomley schrieb: > >> > >>> These are both features being independently worked on, are they not? > >>> Even if they weren't, the combination of the size of SCST in kernel plus > >>> the problem of having to find a migration path for the current STGT > >>> users still looks to me to involve the greater amount of work. > >> I don't want to be mean, but does anyone actually use STGT in > >> production? Seriously? > >> > >> In the latest development version of STGT, it's only possible to stop > >> the tgtd target daemon using KILL / 9 signal - which also means all > >> iSCSI initiator connections are corrupted when tgtd target daemon is > >> started again (kernel upgrade, target daemon upgrade, server reboot etc.). > > > > I don't know what "iSCSI initiator connections are corrupted" > > mean. But if you reboot a server, how can an iSCSI target > > implementation keep iSCSI tcp connections? > > The problem with tgtd is that you can't start it (configured) in an > "atomic" way. > Usually, one will start tgtd and it's configuration in a script (I > replaced some parameters with "..." to make it shorter and more readable): Thanks for the details. So the way to stop the daemon is not related with your problem. It's easily fixable. Can you start a new thread about this on stgt-devel mailing list? When we agree on the interface to start the daemon, I'll implement it. > tgtd > tgtadm --op new ... > tgtadm --lld iscsi --op new ... (snip) > So the only way to start/restart tgtd reliably is to do hacks which are > needed with yet another iSCSI kernel implementation (IET): use iptables. > > iptables <block iSCSI traffic> > tgtd > sleep 1 > tgtadm --op new ... > tgtadm --lld iscsi --op new ... > iptables <unblock iSCSI traffic> > > > A bit ugly, isn't it? > Having to tinker with a firewall in order to start a daemon is by no > means a sign of a well-tested and mature project. > > That's why I asked how many people use stgt in a production environment > - James was worried about a potential migration path for current users. I don't know how many people use stgt in a production environment but I'm not sure that this problem prevents many people from using it in a production environment. You want to reboot a server running target devices while initiators connect to it. Rebooting the target server behind the initiators seldom works. System adminstorators in my workplace reboot storage devices once a year and tell us to shut down the initiator machines that use them before that. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html