On 08/10/2017 09:15 PM, Don Brace wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Hannes Reinecke [mailto:hare@xxxxxxx] >> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 9:11 AM >> To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; >> Christoph Hellwig <hch@xxxxxx> >> Cc: Don Brace <don.brace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Martin K. Petersen >> <martin.petersen@xxxxxxxxxx>; Meelis Roos <mroos@xxxxxxxx>; linux- >> scsi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND 0/6] hpsa: support legacy boards >> >> EXTERNAL EMAIL >> >> >> On 08/10/2017 04:06 PM, James Bottomley wrote: >>> On Thu, 2017-08-10 at 09:09 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: >>>> No device support in Linux is unsupported, sorry. I think we're >>>> getting into the corporate bullshit game a little too much here. >>> >>> I think there are two different definitions of supported here. To us, >>> any device to which the driver attaches is "supported". However, if >>> it's never been tested before it may not work very well. In the Linux >>> way, we'll try to fix the bugs when they're reported and in that sense >>> we support the device until nothing in the kernel attaches to its ids >>> anymore. >>> >>> In the corporate world "supported" means we'll sell you a contract >>> giving you certain rights to report bugs and have us fix them. There >>> are definite reasons why corporations only support a small range of new >>> devices, even though devices not on this list may still be attached to >>> by the driver and thus we (Linux Community) would try to fix the bug >>> reports for. >>> >>> I think what you're basically asking for is a different name for the >>> flag, which is fine? how about 'legacy' instead? >>> >> Sure, no problem with that. >> >> Don? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Hannes >> -- >> Dr. Hannes Reinecke Teamlead Storage & Networking >> hare@xxxxxxx +49 911 74053 688 >> SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg >> GF: F. Imendörffer, J. Smithard, J. Guild, D. Upmanyu, G. Norton >> HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) > > Ok, but to clarify... > * Will the cciss driver be removed when these patches are applied? Otherwise > what will prevent the cciss driver from loading over these devices? > i.e. how often will users need to be reminded to add cciss.cciss_allow_hpsa flag? > > The idea is to remove the cciss driver completely once these changes are in. Preferably with the same patchset to avoid any timing issues. Cheers, Hannes -- Dr. Hannes Reinecke Teamlead Storage & Networking hare@xxxxxxx +49 911 74053 688 SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg GF: F. Imendörffer, J. Smithard, J. Guild, D. Upmanyu, G. Norton HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)