On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Luben Tuikov wrote: > Hi Andre, > > Let me know if this 4 section write up satisfies: > Section 4: Politics > ------------------- > > Let's face it: SAS is a new emerging technology. > It will be the technology for the next 10-15 years, > and *everybody* in Linux SCSI wants a piece of it. > Everybody wants their name and contribution to it. No true, many of us could careless about credit list. > This is fine, but we need people who clearly understand > the technology and clearly understand what, how > and why it works. We need well-read and well educated > people. Linux dedication is fine, but protocol knowlege > is needed too. Sometimes teaching others is a better way to bring them around to your view point while learning about their goals. Since everyone/most agree your T10 knowledge is strong, others have pointed out you are savy enough to work around problems over fixing them in general. Blah blah ... Just show everyone why it can not work the "Linux Way" and defend the points logically. Should the defense of it not be possible, then the point is lost. > Can Linux afford people who have never even read SAS > to write SAS Code for Linux. Yes, sure. It is the > Linux's ideology: "specs are cr@p". SPECs become crap when organizations like STA with T10 make joining and voting on the technology under NCITS $10,000.00 annual membership. This is old boys club rules, otherwise I would have joined and terrorized T10 like I did to T13. Exclusion breeds distrust. > Conclusion > ---------- > > Even though the SAS Transport Layer follows an _already_ > establised layering infrastructure for more (less?) exotic > transports such as USB and SBP, James Bottomley has resisted > its inclusion in Linux SCSI. If this is accurate then it is fair to raise a question; however, few can stand in judgement because they were present in for the discussions. The remander (self included) are in the dark. Cheers, Andre - : send the line "unsubscribe linux-scsi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html