On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 04:53:22PM +0530, Ajay kumar wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Thierry Reding >> <thierry.reding@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 02:01:38PM +0530, Ajay kumar wrote: >> >> Hi Thierry, >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Thierry Reding >> >> <thierry.reding@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 11:20:40AM +0530, Ajay kumar wrote: >> >> >> Hi Tomi, >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@xxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> > On 17/09/14 17:29, Ajay kumar wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Tomi, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for your comments. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@xxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On 27/08/14 17:39, Ajay Kumar wrote: >> >> >> >>>> Add documentation for DT properties supported by ps8622/ps8625 >> >> >> >>>> eDP-LVDS converter. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> Signed-off-by: Ajay Kumar <ajaykumar.rs@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> >>>> --- >> >> >> >>>> .../devicetree/bindings/video/bridge/ps8622.txt | 20 ++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> >> >>>> 1 file changed, 20 insertions(+) >> >> >> >>>> create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/video/bridge/ps8622.txt >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/video/bridge/ps8622.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/video/bridge/ps8622.txt >> >> >> >>>> new file mode 100644 >> >> >> >>>> index 0000000..0ec8172 >> >> >> >>>> --- /dev/null >> >> >> >>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/video/bridge/ps8622.txt >> >> >> >>>> @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@ >> >> >> >>>> +ps8622-bridge bindings >> >> >> >>>> + >> >> >> >>>> +Required properties: >> >> >> >>>> + - compatible: "parade,ps8622" or "parade,ps8625" >> >> >> >>>> + - reg: first i2c address of the bridge >> >> >> >>>> + - sleep-gpios: OF device-tree gpio specification for PD_ pin. >> >> >> >>>> + - reset-gpios: OF device-tree gpio specification for RST_ pin. >> >> >> >>>> + >> >> >> >>>> +Optional properties: >> >> >> >>>> + - lane-count: number of DP lanes to use >> >> >> >>>> + - use-external-pwm: backlight will be controlled by an external PWM >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> What does this mean? That the backlight support from ps8625 is not used? >> >> >> >>> If so, maybe "disable-pwm" or something? >> >> >> >> "use-external-pwm" or "disable-bridge-pwm" would be better. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Well, the properties are about the bridge. "use-external-pwm" means that >> >> >> > the bridge uses an external PWM, which, if I understood correctly, is >> >> >> > not what the property is about. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "disable-bridge-pwm" is ok, but the "bridge" there is extra. The >> >> >> > properties are about the bridge, so it's implicit. >> >> >> Ok. I will use "disable-pwm". >> >> > >> >> > Why is this even necessary? According to the datasheet this device has >> >> > circuitry for backlight control. If so, I'd expect it to expose either a >> >> > backlight device or a PWM device. That way unless somebody is using the >> >> > backlight/PWM exposed by the bridge the bridge can simply disable PWM. >> >> The driver does expose a backlight device. >> >> And, the decision(whether to expose a backlight device or not) is made >> >> based on the DT flag "use-external-pwm". >> >> This was discussed before, and you suggested to use the boolean >> >> property, refer to this link: >> >> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2014-July/065048.html >> > >> > I think you misunderstood what I said, or maybe I didn't explain clearly >> > what I meant. If the PS8622 provides a backlight there's nothing wrong >> > with always exposing it. The bridge itself isn't going to be using the >> > backlight anyway. Rather the panel itself should be using the backlight >> > device exposed by PS8622 or some separate backlight device. >> > >> > To illustrate by an example: >> > >> > ps8622: ... { >> > compatible = "parade,ps8622"; >> > ... >> > }; >> > >> > panel { >> > ... >> > backlight = <&ps8622>; >> > ... >> > }; >> No, if ps8622 backlight control is used, we need not specify the backlight >> phandle for the panel driver. Somehow, ps8622 internal circuitry keeps >> the bootup glitch free :) >> Backlight control and panel controls can be separate then. > > But they shouldn't. Your panel driver should always be the one to > control backlight. How else is the bridge supposed to know when to turn > backlight on or off? In internal pwm case, we keep the backlight on in probe, and from userspace its upto the user to control it via sysfs. And, ps8622 generates backlight only if video data is coming from the encoder. Backlight is synced with video data using an internal circuit, I think. Since internal pwm is tied to video data, but not to any of the panel controls, we need not do any backlight control in panel driver. >> > What you did in v6 of this series was look up a backlight device and >> > then not use it. That seemed unnecessary. Looking at v6 again the reason >> > for getting a phandle to the backlight was so that the device itself did >> > not expose its own backlight controlling circuitry if an external one >> > was being used. But since the bridge has no business controlling the >> > backlight, having the backlight phandle in the bridge is not correct. >> > >> > So I think what you could do in the driver instead is always expose the >> > backlight device. If the panel used a different backlight, the PS8622's >> > internal on simply wouldn't be accessed. It would still be possible to >> > control the backlight in sysfs, but that shouldn't be a problem (only >> > root can access it) >> That would be like simple exposing a feature which cannot be used >> by the user, ideally which "should not be" used by the user. > > And it won't be used unless they access the sysfs files directly. There > are a lot of cases where we expose functionality that cannot be > meaningfully used by the user. For example, a GPIO may not be routed to > anything on a board, yet we don't explicitly hide any specific GPIOs > from users. > >> > That said, I have no strong objections to the boolean property if you >> > feel like it's really necessary. >> Won't you think having a boolean property for an optional >> feature of the device, is better than all these? > > Like I said, I'm indifferent on the matter. I don't think it's necessary > to hide the backlight device, but if you want to, please feel free to do > so. > Another alternative would be not to expose it at all and not have the > boolean property since you don't seem to have a way to test it in the > first place (or at least there's no device support upstream where it's > needed). Well, I am okay doing this. But again, we would be discussing this topic when somebody needs to use internal pwm os ps8622! Also, can you check the other patches and get them merged? This patch is anyhow independent and can come later with the changes you mentioned. Ajay -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-samsung-soc" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
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