Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] vfio-ccw: support hsch/csch (kernel part)

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On 12/06/2018 11:21 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 10:26:12 -0500
Farhan Ali <alifm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 12/06/2018 09:39 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 13:34:11 -0500
Farhan Ali <alifm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 12/05/2018 07:54 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
Yeah, that is perfectly clear, but it ain't the complete story. E.g.
are subsequent commands blocking until the preceding command finishes
is part of the interface. And what is good implementation depends on the
answer. What I mean, I first need to understand how things are supposed
to work (together) so I can double check that against the
implementation. Otherwise all I can do is nitpicking.

To get more tangible: we are in the middle of processing an SSCH request
(e.g. doing the translation) when a HSCH comes in. What should happen?
Should we start processing HSCH after he instruction part of SSCH is
done -- which currently includes translation? Or should we -EBUSY? Or do
we abort START related activities and do the HALT stuff?
I think most of the sorting-out-the-operations stuff should be done by
the hardware itself, and we should not really try to enforce anything
special in our vfio code.

For your example, it might be best if a hsch is always accepted and
send on towards the hardware. Probably best to reflect back -EAGAIN if
we're currently processing another instruction from another vcpu, so
that the user space caller can retry. Same for ssch, if another ssch is
already being processed. We*could*  reflect cc 2 if the fctl bit is
already set, but that won't do for csch, so it is probably best to have
the hardware figure that out in any case.

If I read the code correctly, we currently reflect -EBUSY and not
-EAGAIN if we get a ssch request while already processing another one.
QEMU hands that back to the guest as a cc 2, which is not 100% correct.
In practice, we don't see this with Linux guests due to locking.

If we have a ssch and a csch immediately afterwards from userspace, will
we end up issuing csch first and then ssch to the hardware?

If I understand correctly, the ccw translation as part of the ssch can
be a slow operation so it might be possible we issue the csch first?
In that case we won't actually clear the original start function as
intended.

When we start processing the ssch request (translation and so on), we
set the state to BUSY. This means that any csch request will get a
-EBUSY, no overtaking possible. (I think maybe I'll need to check what
this series looks like if I rebase it on top of Pierre's rework, as he
did some changes in the state machine.)

I think you meant the state is set to BOXED? otherwise the patch 3 says
if state is BUSY and CLEAR event request comes in, we issue the clear
instruction, no?

That's what I meant with "need to rebase" :) The BOXED state is gone; I
just had not rebased on top of it. There's more changes in the state
machine; if we are on the same page as to what should happen, I can
start massaging the patches.



Sorry maybe I missed it, but are you referring to Pierre's latest cleanup patches? I don't see him removing the BOXED state.

I think returning -EAGAIN and asking the userspace to retry the operation sounds reasonable to me.

But how do we handle the issue of protecting the cmd_region from simultaneous hsch and csch calls? Do we agree on Pierre's method of making write calls mutually exclusive?




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