Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 5/7] taskstats: Improve cumulative CPU time accounting

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On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Martin Schwidefsky
<schwidefsky@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> There are basically two things we want to accomplish:

> 1) Make top faster by replacing the /proc based data gathering with taskstats.
>   To really make it go fast with taskstats we filter with last_depart to
>   read only tasks that have changed since the last snapshot.
> 2) Make top more precise. That is where all of the extra accounting comes
>   into play.

I've been lurking mostly (other than a private note to Michael about
this a few weeks ago) but...

Re: 2)  I really think this is a fruitless effort. With a tool like
top showing you one single interval of random length, the data
presented is for recreational purposes at best. Given that, it
provides the justification for 1) like "when the data is useless, it
should be cheap to collect" :-)
IIRC one of the initial anomalies with thread accounting was also
caused by attempts to make the output of top correct, while missing
the overall consistency and capture ratio.

I certainly value proper accounting. But I'm frequently looking at
systems where 10-20% of the consumed CPU capacity is attributed to
kernel daemons (journaling, swapping, interrupt handling, etc). When
we can't attribute that to individual processes, it may not be
interesting to worry about the precision you talk about.

If I understand the proposed solution, it remains a "sample based"
accounting. That means your granularity is limited by the rate with
which you can sample. When the cost of sampling is an order of
magnitude less, you can afford to sample more often and achieve higher
granularity at the same cost. High capture ratio is more important
than high granularity.

| Rob
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