On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 02:08 +0200, Martin Schwidefsky wrote: > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 08:59 -0700, Joe Perches wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 10:31 +0200, Martin Schwidefsky wrote: > > > 1) The message tag is for the user of the system. If it does not have a > > > fixed position it gets confusing. > > I think the message tag today is not useful for a user. > > It seems a barely useful maintainer value. > > Perhaps the message tag allows for run-time language > > translation and maybe a bit better selective logging. > Aehhm, .. what ? If a user does not understand a message directly > how can he NOT be interested in the kmsg tag? As a random example > consider the situation when the user gets the message > > monwriter.1: Writing monitor data failed with rc=5 > > Usually a user will go "Huh?" except if he is a z/VM expert. Looking > at the source code won't help too much either: > > static int monwrite_diag(struct monwrite_hdr *myhdr, char *buffer, int fcn) > { > struct appldata_product_id id; > int rc; > > strcpy(id.prod_nr, "LNXAPPL"); > id.prod_fn = myhdr->applid; > id.record_nr = myhdr->record_num; > id.version_nr = myhdr->version; > id.release_nr = myhdr->release; > id.mod_lvl = myhdr->mod_level; > rc = appldata_asm(&id, fcn, (void *) buffer, myhdr->datalen); > if (rc <= 0) > return rc; > if (rc == 5) > return -EPERM; > kmsg_err(1,"Writing monitor data failed with rc=%i\n", rc); > return -EINVAL; > } > > What the user should do is to cut-copy-paste the kmsg tag monwriter.1 > and pass it to man: > > # man monwriter.1 > > What the user will then get is the man page that has been generated > from the kmsg comment with "make D=2": > > --- snip > monwriter.1(9) monwriter.1(9) > > Message > monwriter.1: Writing monitor data failed with rc=%i > > Severity > Error > > Parameters > @1: return code > > Description > The monitor stream application device driver used the z/VM diagnose > call DIAG X'DC' to start writing monitor data. z/VM returned an error > and the monitor data cannot be written. If the return code is 5, your > z/VM guest virtual machine is not authorized to write monitor data. > > User action > If the return code is 5, ensure that your z/VM guest virtual machine's > entry in the z/VM directory includes the OPTION APPLMON statement. For > other return codes see the section about DIAGNOSE Code X'DC' in "z/VM > CP Programming Services". Doesn't this example better illustrate the barely useful user value of such a message and documentation? In your example, monwriter.1 with a return code of 5 isn't possible. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-s390" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html