On Thu, 2017-06-08 at 21:02 +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 6:33 PM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Andy Shevchenko > > <andy.shevchenko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Andy Shevchenko > > > > <andriy.shevchenko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > I really like the idea, and the implementation seems fine for this use case, but > > > > before we reserve %pt for rtc_time, could we discuss whether we want > > > > that for printing struct tm, struct timespec64, time64_t or ktime_t instead? > > > > > > How many users? > > > > It's hard to predict, I would assume we get more users once there is an > > easy way to print the time. > > So, at least for now we can guess using existing users, right? > > I don't check yet how to calculate those cases of time64_t, > timespec64, ktime_t and alike if they are about pretty ptintong time > and date. > I'm speculating that there are (almost) none. > > > > For struct tm it's somelike 4 (which want to print its content). > > > > Good point. I notice that they all convert from time64_t or time_t into > > struct tm immediately before printing it, so we can scratch that one > > as long as there is a way to pretty-print a time64_t. We also don't > > need to print a time_t as we want to kill that one off anyway. > > > > If we only care about printing time64_t and rtc_time, we can easily > > use %pT for one and %pt for the other, but there may still be good > > reasons to print a timespec64 or ktime_t. > > No need, we may still use 3rd/4th letter in the format for that. > > %pt(t/d) time/date + whatever modifications, like raw, validate, timespec, etc. > > 's' for timespec64, for example. My preference would be for %pt[type]<output style> where <type> is mandatory and could be: r for struct rtc_time 6 for time64_t k for ktime_t T for struct timespec64 etc and <output style> has an unspecified default of YYYY-MM-DD:hh:mm:ss Perhaps use the "date" formats without the leading % uses for <output style> for additional styles.