Meanwhile I have dug a little deeper into this problem. The problem occurs under the following conditions: - the BIOS clock must be slow - the NTP daemon is used to adjust the system time The problem can be reproduced on real hardware as well as on a virtual machine running under VMware. Set the BIOS clock back about ten minutes against the 'real' time. Then start the NTP daemon and then run the little test program: #include <stdio.h> #include <stdlib.h> #include <time.h> #include <errno.h> #include <sys/select.h> int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { time_t t; struct timeval timeout; int i; int ret; t = time (NULL); printf ("Current time before = %s", ctime (&t)); for (i = 0; i < 20; i++) { timeout.tv_sec = 1; timeout.tv_usec = 0; if ((ret = select (FD_SETSIZE, NULL, NULL, NULL, &timeout)) < 0) { printf ("select returned %d, errno = %d\n", ret, errno); return EXIT_FAILURE; } } t = time (NULL); printf ("Current time after = %s", ctime (&t)); return EXIT_SUCCESS; } On a virtual machine under VMware I got the following result after some minutes of system run time: hws@cwc-vmware:/home/hws > /space/software/select_test/debug/src/select_test Current time before = Fri Sep 18 20:05:51 2009 Current time after = Fri Sep 18 20:06:11 2009 hws@cwc-vmware:/home/hws > /space/software/select_test/debug/src/select_test Current time before = Fri Sep 18 20:14:29 2009 Current time after = Fri Sep 18 20:14:33 2009 hws@cwc-vmware:/home/hws > /space/software/select_test/debug/src/select_test Current time before = Fri Sep 18 20:14:57 2009 Current time after = Fri Sep 18 20:14:57 2009 hws@cwc-vmware:/home/hws > /space/software/select_test/debug/src/select_test Current time before = Fri Sep 18 20:15:20 2009 Current time after = Fri Sep 18 20:15:40 2009 hws@cwc-vmware:/home/hws > Normally, the time distance between 'before' and 'after' should be 20 seconds as in the first and last run of the program. For the second run the time difference is only 4 seconds and for the third run it is even zero. On the real hardware I have also some other time-related issues when the problem occurs. Keyboard input will often 'bounce' - key presses are detected two or more times and some delay times are prolonged (!). I could not yet reproduce this in the virtual machine. The problem will not always occur immediately after the system is started but it may take several minutes until the first effects occur. I have not tested this issue with other kernels yet but I will do so during the weekend. Are there any ideas what to do about this (beside buying a better BIOS clock)? I would really like to have the NTP daemon running to keep the system time accurate, but somehow it seems to effect wait queues in the kernel pretty badly. Bye, Jürgen Jürgen Mell schrieb: > Hi, > > I have an application which connects via a network socket to a server > running on the same machine (IP 127.0.0.1) This application uses the > function 'select' to wait for new data from the server or until a two > seconds timeout. This works well until there is network traffic on the > external network interfaces (eth* or WLAN). When there is network > traffic on the external interfaces, the select function does not wait > anymore but it returns with a return code of zero, indicating not data > available on the socket. This happens nearly immediately (after 8 to 9 > microseconds) and not after the specified two seconds interval. The > timeout parameter of select is updated accordingly (it shows eg. 1 s > 999991 us). > Up to now I could not test this with another kernel but I will try to > do it this afternoon. Are there any known problems with select? Is > there any way to circumvent this? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > Jürgen > -- Jürgen Mell (Software-Entwicklung) mell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Tel.: +49-511-762-18226 http://www.hedrich-winding.com FAX : +49-511-762-18225 Mobil: +49-160-7428156 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- HEDRICH winding systems GmbH An der Universität 2 (im PZH) D-30823 Garbsen (GERMANY) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Geschäftsführer: Karsten Adam Handelsregister: Wetzlar, HRB 4768 Steuernr.: 020/235/20110 USt-IdNr.: DE 258258279 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-rt-users" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html