http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt/patch-2.6.29-rt1.bz2 ... is out :) /j On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 21:43 +0100, Grammostola Rosea wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry, but I've to call again... > > The developers seems very willing to include a realtime kernel there > repo. They need some people who wants to build and maintain it. This is > really a chance for linux audio, especially on Debian. *This is the > moment!* > > So please consider to offer your help in building, maintaining and/or > testing! > > Thanks in advance, > > \r > > > > > > Grammostola Rosea wrote: > > Grammostola Rosea wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> There is an promising discussion on the debian-dev mailinglist. Maybe > >> some people who knows more about realtime kernels could join. Also > >> users who might want to have an realtime kernel in Debian and/or want > >> help testing could join the discussion. I think it would be nice if > >> there is also an realtime kernel in Debian or that the default kernel > >> would be improved for realtime (audio) usage. > >> > >> > >> http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe > > Here is the thread about a realtime kernel in Debian: > > > > > > http://www.linux-archive.org/debian-development/268999-realtime-kernel-debian.html > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > \r > > > > > > > > > >> > >> \r > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> Subject: > >> Re: realtime kernel for Debian > >> From: > >> "Giacomo A. Catenazzi" <cate@xxxxxxxxxx> > >> Date: > >> Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:26:35 +0100 > >> To: > >> debian-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> To: > >> debian-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> > >> Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > >>>> Do you really need real time kernel? > >>>> Debian is a technical driven project, but reading the previous two > >>>> quotes, > >>>> "real time" is used as marketing thing. > >>> > >>> It's good to question the use of any feature, but a real-time kernel is > >>> certainly very useful in many industrial applications and Debian is > >>> popular in that field. (Don't put a marketing label on anything where > >>> you are not yourself sure of your expertise.) > >> > >> Yes, I didn't write very well my sentence: the previous quotes was more > >> about "there exist rt kernels", "ubuntu has a rt kernel", but not solid > >> requirements. I had to write some "seems", and I'm sorry for the two > >> quoted people if it seems an attack. > >> Anyway, later in the mail, I asked for precise needs, so we could see > >> better what we should improve. > >> > >> IMHO most users want a low latency kernel, but not a slower kernel, so > >> a CONFIG_HZ_1000 would be nice. But the original post was about > >> multimedia production (and not reproduction), so the needs are probably > >> other. > >> > >> My point was more: > >> - Debian has not rt kernel. Why? Non DD interested or/and low demand? > >> This is an important point. We must not produce a rt-kernel if > >> we cannot provide testers and developers (in unstable). > >> - kernel management is a weak point in distribution: no good method > >> for kernel dependencies, using full capabilities, ... > >> > >> so IMHO we should try harder with the normal kernel, so that we > >> can use the same infrastructure and testers. If we fail and we > >> are able to support rt kernels, IMO it is good to provide it in Debian. > >> > >> The original mail was about "multimedia production" and few year ago > >> kernel > >> developers had a lot of interaction with music industries. > >> I'm not an expert in the field, but how far are we in their need with > >> standard kernels?) > >> > >> > >>> I do use a real-time kernel on a Debian based system for one of my > >>> customers (but I have to recompile the kernel anyway because I do other > >>> customizations) and I have good reasons to do so because I can't suffer > >>> serial overrun and I must ensure that the serial interrupt handler > >>> is run in the required time and that no other (kernel) task has higher > >>> priority. > >> > >> These *other customizations* are important to rt-kernel. So we need > >> a person (or more) that know the needs and could support us. > >> "realtime" alone is only a label ;-) > >> > >> ciao > >> cate > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-dev mailing list > Linux-audio-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-rt-users" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
