Hi guys, if i'm reading the code right, the PM clk means: 1/ the clocks which would be enabled while power on 2/ these clocks are optional, it's ok if anything wrong with them 3/ controlled by pm_domain(or USE_PM_CLK_RUNTIME_OPS & pm_clk_add_notifier) and currently we're adding all clocks of the attached device as PM clk in rockchip PM domain driver, which seems wrong. because we might have these kinds of clocks: 1/ critical, should block power on if anything wrong with it(failed to get/ prepare/ enable) 2/ optional, could ignore it if anything wrong 3/ only required in some special cases, for example register r/w, and doesn't need to stay enabled while power on so maybe we can: 1/ let the device(dts) or driver decide which clock is PM clk, and add it using *pm_clk_add* APIs (even of_pm_clk_add_clks() if all clocks are pm clk) 2/ add support for critical PM clk, which would return error to the driver if anything wrong 3/ make sure PM clk always be controlled(otherwise it might be unexpected disabled by other clocks under the same clk parent?): a) make sure Runtime PM is always enabled. and as discussed, we can select PM in ARCH_ROCKCHIP b) make sure the device has a PM domain to control PM clk: select ROCKCHIP_PM_DOMAINS for ARCH_ROCKCHIP(that would also select PM_GENERIC_DOMAINS) check dev->pm_domain before hand over PM clk, since we only care about EPROBE_DEFER when attach PM domain: ret = dev_pm_domain_attach(_dev, true); if (ret != -EPROBE_DEFER) { if (drv->probe) { ret = drv->probe(dev); or c) make pm_clk_suspend/pm_clk_resume part of the generic PM Runtime flow(even without a PM domain) On 02/28/2018 10:07 PM, Tomasz Figa wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Geert Uytterhoeven > <geert at linux-m68k.org> wrote: >> Hi Tomasz, >> >> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 1:49 PM, Tomasz Figa <tfiga at chromium.org> wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 9:32 PM, Geert Uytterhoeven >>> <geert at linux-m68k.org> wrote: >>>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 1:29 PM, Tomasz Figa <tfiga at chromium.org> wrote: >>>>> Also, how about systems where runtime PM is disabled? I think that's >>>>> one of the reasons we control the clocks explicitly in the drivers >>>>> anyway. >>>> >>>> On many platforms, Runtime PM is always enabled. >>> >>> Can we make such assumption? If so, could we just make an explicit >>> "select PM_RUNTIME" in Kconfig of the SoC? >> >> Note that the PM_RUNTIME symbol was removed in commit 464ed18ebdb6236f >> ("PM: Eliminate CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME"), in favor of plain PM. >> >> The following already select PM unconditionally: >> - ARCH_OMAP2PLUS_TYPICAL >> - ARCH_RENESAS (except EMEV2) >> - ARCH_TEGRA >> - ARCH_VEXPRESS > > Thanks! Sounds like we might be able to simplify a lot of things with > doing the same for Rockchip. > > Best regards, > Tomasz > > >