Re: [PATCH v4 00/31] v4l: add support for multiplexed streams

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On 06/10/2022 14:20, Sakari Ailus wrote:
Moi,

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 03:44:56PM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:

You found an old one =).

Hi all,

On 28/03/2019 22:05, Jacopo Mondi wrote:
Hello,
    new iteration of multiplexed stream support patch series.

V3 available at:
https://patchwork.kernel.org/cover/10839889/

V2 sent by Niklas is available at:
https://patchwork.kernel.org/cover/10573817/

Series available at:
git://jmondi.org/linux v4l2-mux/media-master/v4

I'm trying to understand how these changes can be used with virtual
channels and also with embedded data.

I have an SoC with two CSI-2 RX ports, both of which connect to a
processing block with 8 DMA engines. Each of the DMA engines can be
programmed to handle a certain virtual channel and datatype.

The board has a multiplexer, connected to 4 cameras, and the multiplexer
connects to SoC's CSI-2 RX port. This board has just one multiplexer
connected, but, of course, both RX ports could have a multiplexer,
amounting to total 8 cameras.

So, in theory, there could be 16 streams to be handled (4 pixel streams
and 4 embedded data streams for both RX ports). With only 8 DMA engines
available, the driver has to manage them dynamically, reserving a DMA
engine when a stream is started.

My confusion is with the /dev/video nodes. I think it would be logical
to create 8 of them, one for each DMA engine (or less, if I know there
is only, say, 1 camera connected, in which case 2 nodes would be

For more complex devices, it is often not possible to define such a number.
Say, put an external ISP in between the sensor and the CSI-2 receiver, and
you may get more streams than you would from the sensor alone.

enough). But in that case how does the user know what data is being
received from that node? In other words, how to connect, say,
/dev/video0 to second camera's embedded data stream?

Another option would be to create 16 /dev/video nodes, and document that
first one maps to virtual channel 0 + pixel data, second to virtual
channel 0 + embedded data, and so on. And only allow 8 of them to be
turned on at a time. But I don't like this idea much.

This isn't great IMO as it is limited to pre-defined use cases.


The current driver architecture is such that the multiplexer is modeled
with a subdev with 4 sink pads and one source pad, the SoC's RX ports
are subdevs with a single sink and a single output pad, and then there
are the video devices connected to RX's source pad.

And while I can connect the video node's pad to the source pad on either
of the RX ports, I don't think I have any way to define which stream it
receives.

Does that mean that each RX port subdev should instead have 8 source
pads? Isn't a pad like a physical connection? There's really just one
output from the RX port, with multiplexed streams, so 8 pads doesn't
sound right.

If you have eight DMAs you should always have eight video nodes.

I would put one link between the sub-device and a video node, and handle
the incoming streams by routing them to the desired video nodes.

This is how it's been for quite a while. However, I think this model causes problems with more programmable DMA systems, where there's no maximum number of DMA "engines" (or the max is something like 256). But for now those systems can just define a sensible number of DMAs (8? 16? I guess it depends on the HW).

 Tomi




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