Hello everyone, On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 14:36, Fabrizio Castro <fabrizio.castro.jz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi Arnd, > > Thanks for your feedback! > > > From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: 26 February 2021 10:38 > > Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] misc: Add driver for DAB IP found on Renesas R- > > Car devices > > > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 11:51 PM Fabrizio Castro > > <fabrizio.castro.jz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > The DAB hardware accelerator found on R-Car E3 and R-Car M3-N devices is > > > a hardware accelerator for software DAB demodulators. > > > It consists of one FFT (Fast Fourier Transform) module and one decoder > > > module, compatible with DAB specification (ETSI EN 300 401 and > > > ETSI TS 102 563). > > > The decoder module can perform FIC decoding and MSC decoding processing > > > from de-puncture to final decoded result. > > > > > > This patch adds a device driver to support the FFT module only. > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Fabrizio Castro <fabrizio.castro.jz@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > --- > > > MAINTAINERS | 7 ++ > > > drivers/misc/Kconfig | 1 + > > > drivers/misc/Makefile | 1 + > > > drivers/misc/rcar_dab/Kconfig | 11 ++ > > > drivers/misc/rcar_dab/Makefile | 8 ++ > > > drivers/misc/rcar_dab/rcar_dev.c | 176 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > drivers/misc/rcar_dab/rcar_dev.h | 116 ++++++++++++++++++++ > > > drivers/misc/rcar_dab/rcar_fft.c | 160 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > include/uapi/linux/rcar_dab.h | 35 ++++++ > > > > Can you explain why this is not in drivers/media/? > > I wasn't entirely sure were to put it to be honest as I couldn't find > anything similar, that's why "misc" for v1, to mainly get a feedback > and advice. > > > > > I don't think we want a custom ioctl interface for a device that > > implements > > a generic specification. My first feeling would be that this should not > > have a user-level API but instead get called by the DAB radio driver. > > I hear you, the trouble is that the modules of this IP should be seen > as part of a SW and HW processing pipeline. > Some of the SW components of the pipeline can be proprietary, and > unfortunately we don't have access (yet) to a framework that allows us to > test and demonstrate the whole pipeline, for the moment we can only test > things in isolation. It'll take us a while to come up with a full solution > (or to have access to one), and in the meantime our SoCs come with an IP > that can't be used because there is no driver for it (yet). > > After discussing things further with Geert and Laurent, I think they > are right in saying that the best path for this is probably to add this > driver under "drivers/staging" as an interim solution, so that the IP will > be accessible by developers, and when we have everything we need (a fully > fledged processing framework), we will able to integrate it better with > the other components (if possible). > > > > > What is the intended usage model here? I assume the idea is to > > use it in an application that receives audio or metadata from DAB. > > What driver do you use for that? > > This IP is similar to a DMA to some extent, in the sense that it takes > input data from a buffer in memory and it writes output data onto a buffer > in memory, and of course it does some processing in between. That sounds like something that can fit V4L2 MEM2MEM driver. You queue two buffers and an operation, and then run a job. > It's not directly connected to any other Radio related IP. > The user space application can read DAB IQ samples from the R-Car DRIF > interface (via driver drivers/media/platform/rcar_drif.c, or from other > sources since this IP is decoupled from DRIF), and then when it's time > to accelerate FFT, FIC, or MSC, it can request services to the DAB IP, so > that the app can go on and use the processor to do some work, while the DAB > IP processes things. > A framework to connect and exchange processing blocks (either SW or HW) and > interfaces is therefore vital to properly place a kernel implementation > in the great scheme of things, in its absence a simple driver can help I'm not entirely sure we are missing a framework. What's missing in V4L2 MEM2MEM? Before considering drivers/staging, it would be interesting to figure out if V4L2 can do it as-is, and if not, discuss what's missing. Thanks, Ezequiel