Hi Arnd, On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 10:10 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 12:21 PM Simon Horman > <horms+renesas@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > * Add support for RZ/G2E (r8a774c0) and RZ/G2M (r8a774a1) SoCs > > * Enable Compare Match Timer (CMT) and Timer Unit (TMU) > > for Renesas SoCs > > * Remove no longer needed ARCH_SHMOBILE Kconfig symbol > > The ARCH_SHMOBILE removal and cleanup is fine, but I wonder about > the newly added symbols for specific SoCs. I see you already have a > couple of those, but the other manufacturers don't. > > I think what happened here is that I tried to reject those additions > normally, but I never noticed yours. From what I see in drivers, > you have additional symbols depending on these in clk, pinctrl, > drivers/soc, and the dtb files, so at the very least we can't > just drop the config options, but I'd still like to see this work > more like other platforms. The main motivation for SoC-specific controls is to avoid including pinctrl and (to a lesser extent) clock tables for unused SoCs. Each pinctrl driver consumes a few tens of KiB, each clock driver a few KiB. If we remove the SoC-specific ARCH_* controls, the user has to configure both pinctrl and clock driver selections, thus trading one user-visible symbol for two new user-visible symbols (except for RZ/A and RZ/N, where the pinctrl symbols are already visible, to allow reducing kernel size). Perhaps that is acceptable? For the smaller parts in drivers/soc/, removing SoC-specific dependencies may be viable for R-Car and RZ/G Socs, but not for e.g. RZ/A. The latter may be used without external RAM, and can run with a few MiB of internal SRAM, and XIP (with a still out-of-tree patch). So at least a family-specific dependency is worth to keep. For now, RZ/A is arm32 only, though. Note that on arm64, there are no family-specific Kconfig symbols yet. We just have ARCH_RENESAS, which is also set on arm32. So either we introduce e.g. ARCH_RCAR_GEN3 (cfr. ARCH_RCAR_GEN1 and ARCH_RCAR_GEN2 or arm32), or use "ARCH_RENESAS && ARM64" for e.g. RST_RCAR in drivers/soc/renesas/Kconfig, which currently depends on all R-Car Gen3 (and RZ/G2) SoCs explicitly. Choosing the latter option means we may need to migrate to the former option later, once other families appear (e.g. RZ/A SoCs may start using Cortex-A53 instead of Cortex-A9 cores). For the DTB files, I believe we can just remove the dependencies, and always build all DTBs. What do you think? Thanks! Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds