Hi Laurent, On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thursday 20 Apr 2017 13:37:27 Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote: >> > On Thursday 20 Apr 2017 12:11:41 Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: >> >> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote: >> >>> On Thursday 20 Apr 2017 11:49:06 Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: >> >>>> Group the AVB pins into similar groups as found in other sh-pfc >> >>>> drivers. The pins can not be muxed between functions other than AVB, >> >>>> but their drive strengths can be controlled. >> >>>> >> >>>> The group avb_mdc containing ADV_MDC and ADV_MDIO is called avb_mdio >> >>>> on other SoCs. In pfc-r8a7796 the avb_mdc group already existed and is >> >>>> in use in DT. Therefore add the ADV_MDIO pin to the existing group >> >>>> instead of renaming it. >> >>> >> >>> This clearly shows that we need a few kernel releases to test >> >>> PFC-related code and DT before we can commit to an ABI. How do you >> >>> think we should handle this ? >> >> >> >> That's a difficult question >> >> >> >> For now I'd like to treat R-Car M3-W the same as H3. >> > >> > I still believe we should introduce some kind of unstable period for DT >> > bindings, during which they will be merged in mainline but still subject >> > to modification. It could just be a few kernel releases. >> >> Like, from v4.4 (when avb_mdc was added for H3) until v4.12 (earliest >> we can correct this)? > > Sorry, I misread you, I thought that H3 named the group mdio (you might want > to clarify this in the commit message). I was referring to when M3 PFC support Sorry, this was a bit unclear (I reused the description from the H3 patch). This was actually referring to R-Car Gen2. Will fix. > was introduced, which was v4.10, so that's just two releases. We obviously > can't rename mdc to mdio on H3 if we want to keep backward compatibility. And because of pin-compatibility and board sharing of H3 and M3-W, I want both to use identical group naming. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds