Hi Laurent, (this time reply to all) On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thursday 20 Apr 2017 12:11:41 Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote: >> > On Thursday 20 Apr 2017 11:49:06 Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: >> >> Group the AVB pins into similar groups as found in other sh-pfc drivers. >> >> The pins can not be muxed between functions other than AVB, but their >> >> drive strengths can be controlled. >> >> >> >> The group avb_mdc containing ADV_MDC and ADV_MDIO is called avb_mdio on >> >> other SoCs. In pfc-r8a7796 the avb_mdc group already existed and is in >> >> use in DT. Therefore add the ADV_MDIO pin to the existing group instead >> >> of renaming it. >> > >> > This clearly shows that we need a few kernel releases to test PFC-related >> > code and DT before we can commit to an ABI. How do you think we should >> > handle this ? >> >> That's a difficult question ;-) >> >> For now I'd like to treat R-Car M3-W the same as H3. > > I still believe we should introduce some kind of unstable period for DT > bindings, during which they will be merged in mainline but still subject to > modification. It could just be a few kernel releases. Like, from v4.4 (when avb_mdc was added for H3) until v4.12 (earliest we can correct this)? Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds