On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 11:27:44AM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote: > Therefore I think the approach is going to be "one RDS listener per > net namespace". The problem Ka-Cheong is trying to address is how to > manage the destruction of a listener-namespace pair. The extra > reference count on the cm_id is pinning the namespace so it cannot > be destroyed. I really don't think this idea of just loading a kernel module and it immediately creates a network visibile listening socket in every namespace is very good. > Understood, but it doesn't seem like there is enough useful overlap > between the NFS and RDS usage scenarios. With NFS, I would expect > an explicit listener shutdown from userland prior to namespace > destruction. Yes, because namespaces are fundamentally supposed to be anchored in the processes inside the namespace. Having the kernel jump in and start opening holes as soon as a namespace is created is just wrong. At a bare minimum the listener should not exist until something in the namespace is willing to work with RDS. Jason