Hi Tom- > On Jul 11, 2017, at 9:23 AM, Tom Talpey <tom@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 7/10/2017 11:57 PM, Chuck Lever wrote: >>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 6:09 PM, Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 06:04:18PM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote: >>> >>>>> The server sounds fine, how does the client work? >>>> >>>> The client does not initiate RDMA Read or Write today. >>> >>> Right, but it provides an rkey that the server uses for READ or WRITE. >>> >>> The invalidate of that rkey at the client must follow the same rules >>> as inline send. >> Ah, I see. >> The RPC reply handler calls frwr_op_unmap_sync to invalidate >> any MRs associated with the RPC. >> frwr_op_unmap_sync has to sort the rkeys that are remotely >> invalidated, and those that have not been. > > Does the reply handler consider the possibility that the reply is > being signaled before the send WRs? There are some really interesting > races on shared or multiple CQs when the completion upcalls start > to back up under heavy load that we've seen in Windows SMB Direct. If I understand you correctly, that's exactly what we're discussing. The Send WR that transmitted the RPC Call can outlive the RPC transaction in rare cases. A partial solution is to move the Send SGE array into a data structure whose lifetime is independent of rpcrdma_req. That allows the client to guarantee that appropriate DMA unmaps are done only after the Send is complete. The other part of this issue is that delayed Send completion also needs to prevent initiation of another RPC, otherwise the Send Queue can overflow or the client might exceed the credit grant on this connection. This part worries me because it could mean that some serialization (eg. a completion and context switch) is needed for every Send operation on the client. > In the end, we had to put explicit reference counts on each and > every object, and added rundown references to everything before > completing an operation and signaling the upper layer (SMB3, in > our case). This found a surprising number of double completions, > and missing completions from drivers as well. > >> The first step is to ensure all the rkeys for an RPC are >> invalid. The rkey that was remotely invalidated is skipped >> here, and a chain of LocalInv WRs is posted to invalidate >> any remaining rkeys. The last WR in the chain is signaled. >> If one or more LocalInv WRs are posted, this function waits >> for LocalInv completion. >> The last step is always DMA unmapping. Note that we can't >> get a completion for a remotely invalidated rkey, and we >> have to wait for LocalInv to complete anyway. So the DMA >> unmapping is always handled here instead of in a >> completion handler. >> When frwr_op_unmap_sync returns to the RPC reply handler, >> the handler calls xprt_complete_rqst, and the RPC is >> terminated. This guarantees that the MRs are invalid before >> control is returned to the RPC consumer. >> In the ^C case, frwr_op_unmap_safe is invoked during RPC >> termination. The MRs are passed to the background recovery >> task, which invokes frwr_op_recover_mr. > > That worries me. How do you know it's going in sequence, > and that it will result in an invalidated MR? The MR is destroyed synchronously. Isn't that enough to guarantee that the rkey is invalid and DMA unmapping is safe to proceed? With FRWR, if a LocalInv flushes with "memory management error" there's no way to invalidate that MR other than: - destroy the MR, or - disconnect The latter is a mighty sledgehammer that affects all the live MRs and RPCs on that connection. That's why recover_mr destroys the MR in all cases. >> frwr_op_recover_mr destroys the fr_mr and DMA unmaps the >> memory. (It's also used when registration or invalidation >> flushes, which is why it uses a hammer). >> So here, we're a little fast/loose: the ordering of >> invalidation and unmapping is correct, but the MRs can be >> invalidated after the RPC completes. Since RPC termination >> can't wait, this is the best I can do for now. > > That would worry me even more. "fast/loose" isn't a good > situation when storage is concerned. I agree! > Shouldn't you just be closing the connection? We'd have to wait for the connection close to complete in a function that is not allowed to sleep, so it would have to be done in the background as well. This is no better than handing the MR to a background process. And if possible we'd like to avoid connection loss (see above). I don't like this situation, but it's the best I can do with the current architecture of the RPC client. I've been staring at this for a couple of years now wondering how to fix it. Suggestions happily accepted! -- Chuck Lever -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-rdma" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html