RE: [PATCH 0/6] refactor RDMA live migration based on rsocket API

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Hi Peter,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Xu [mailto:peterx@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2024 3:32 AM
> To: Gonglei (Arei) <arei.gonglei@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> <wangjialin23@xxxxxxxxxx>; Fabiano Rosas <farosas@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] refactor RDMA live migration based on rsocket API
> 
> Hi, Lei, Jialin,
> 
> Thanks a lot for working on this!
> 
> I think we'll need to wait a bit on feedbacks from Jinpu and his team on RDMA
> side, also Daniel for iochannels.  Also, please remember to copy Fabiano
> Rosas in any relevant future posts.  We'd also like to know whether he has any
> comments too.  I have him copied in this reply.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 08:14:06PM +0800, Gonglei wrote:
> > From: Jialin Wang <wangjialin23@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > This patch series attempts to refactor RDMA live migration by
> > introducing a new QIOChannelRDMA class based on the rsocket API.
> >
> > The /usr/include/rdma/rsocket.h provides a higher level rsocket API
> > that is a 1-1 match of the normal kernel 'sockets' API, which hides
> > the detail of rdma protocol into rsocket and allows us to add support
> > for some modern features like multifd more easily.
> >
> > Here is the previous discussion on refactoring RDMA live migration
> > using the rsocket API:
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20240328130255.52257-1-philmd@linar
> > o.org/
> >
> > We have encountered some bugs when using rsocket and plan to submit
> > them to the rdma-core community.
> >
> > In addition, the use of rsocket makes our programming more convenient,
> > but it must be noted that this method introduces multiple memory
> > copies, which can be imagined that there will be a certain performance
> > degradation, hoping that friends with RDMA network cards can help verify,
> thank you!
> 
> It'll be good to elaborate if you tested it in-house. What people should expect
> on the numbers exactly?  Is that okay from Huawei's POV?
> 
> Besides that, the code looks pretty good at a first glance to me.  Before
> others chim in, here're some high level comments..
> 
> Firstly, can we avoid using coroutine when listen()?  Might be relevant when I
> see that rdma_accept_incoming_migration() runs in a loop to do raccept(), but
> would that also hang the qemu main loop even with the coroutine, before all
> channels are ready?  I'm not a coroutine person, but I think the hope is that
> we can make dest QEMU run in a thread in the future just like the src QEMU, so
> the less coroutine the better in this path.
> 

Because rsocket is set to non-blocking, raccept will return EAGAIN when no connection 
is received, coroutine will yield, and will not hang the qemu main loop.

> I think I also left a comment elsewhere on whether it would be possible to allow
> iochannels implement their own poll() functions to avoid the per-channel poll
> thread that is proposed in this series.
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/r/ZldY21xVExtiMddB@x1n
> 

We noticed that, and it's a big operation. I'm not sure that's a better way.

> Personally I think even with the thread proposal it's better than the old rdma
> code, but I just still want to double check with you guys.  E.g., maybe that just
> won't work at all?  Again, that'll also be based on the fact that we move
> migration incoming into a thread first to keep the dest QEMU main loop intact,
> I think, but I hope we will reach that irrelevant of rdma, IOW it'll be nice to
> happen even earlier if possible.
> 
Yep. This is a fairly big change, I wonder what other people's suggestions are?

> Another nitpick is that qio_channel_rdma_listen_async() doesn't look used and
> may prone to removal.
> 

Yes. This is because when we wrote the test case, we wanted to test qio_channel_rdma_connect_async, 
and also I added qio_channel_rdma_listen_async. It is not used in the RDMA hot migration code.

Regards,
-Gonglei





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