On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 05:08:58PM +1000, Neil Brown wrote: > > Maybe this is the first real fork of Linux - google might be rich enough to > persist with it. Define "real fork"? Both SuSE and Red Hat have carried patches, in some cases for years, forward porting them to newer kernels. Does that make them forks? SuSE has made changes to e2fsprogs, and carried those patches for years and years, and even added options to command-line programs which SLES's init scripts are dependent on --- and this was done without even consulting me first. Yet you don't see me calling out SLES for "forking" e2fsprogs and how it "got away" with it. Can we please cut out this whole forking nonsense? I've been told that it's only something Slashdot kiddies and ZDNet media types looking for advertising impressions. Yet you're a kernel programmer, and one who works for a distribution, and you've made this same claim; you should know better. > I'm surprised at this comment Ted! > Power saving is not the single supreme goal, yet you make it sound like > it is. > > It should be no surprise to anyone if the most maintainable solution uses a > little more power than the most highly optimised solution. I think most of > us would still prefer the more maintainable solution. I think part of the problem here is what's considered "acceptable" to one set of developers may not be considered "acceptable" to another set. As I've said many times before, what makes sense for a cell phone battery and highly power-optimized hardware may not make sense for a devices with 6-cell laptop battery. And I think it's still to be seen whether or not suspend-from-userspace really is as minor as people think it is, and what compromises might have to be made in how app programs are forced to develop their applications, etc. - Ted _______________________________________________ linux-pm mailing list linux-pm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-pm