On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Mark Brown <broonie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 02:11:22PM +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote: > >> So far, nobody has refuted these: >> 1) opportunistic suspend needs a good behaved user-space to work properly >> 2) if suspend blockers are enabled in a system, *all* user-space must >> implement them to work correctly > > For this note that there's a fairly strong expectation that even in a > phone type environment a sane userspace implementation will involve a > very large portion of userspace just totally ignoring suspend blockers. > This means that while it is true that userspace as a whole must have > support for suspend blockers the changes required are substantially less > invasive than you appear to expecting. Correct, but still a considerable amount of changes would need to be done, which _nobody_ has expressed any intention to do. Besides, IMO a good mobile platform would share as much as possible with desktop software. Say, the improvements Nokia has endorsed on the Telepathy IM framework can only help the people already using it on the desktop. However, personally, if I ever have to do './configure --enable-suspend-blockers', I would think that something that just doesn't belong has creped by to user-space. I don't see why there should something particularly different between mobile phones and laptops, and I think this has been already expressed over, and over. -- Felipe Contreras _______________________________________________ linux-pm mailing list linux-pm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-pm